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@canefan Totally. I think she started her career as an auditor (surprise surprise) and then it's been filled with policy, academia and politics since. Problem here is that some people will see her as an accountant, which may be true, but she is completely divorced from the reality of running a SME as she would have had no experience in running one or offering advice to one.
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@Toddy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan Totally. I think she started her career as an auditor (surprise surprise) and then it's been filled with policy, academia and politics since. Problem here is that some people will see her as an accountant, which may be true, but she is completely divorced from the reality of running a SME as she would have had no experience in running one or offering advice to one.
Sounds like another person who couldn't cut it out in the real world...
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A nagging thought I've had for the last couple of weeks.
On the whole, Ashley Bloomfeld seems to be doing a very good job. However, he's so polished at dealing with media (and/or exceptionally well media trained) that I wonder if a few things get glossed over or missed that shouldn't be. Especially given the varying quality of the media pack and their approach to questioning.
On Tuesday, Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield said none of the patients in hospital were critical; yesterday he said they were stable.
Nicole was initially elated when she heard the briefing on Tuesday and thought her mother's condition must have changed since they had spoken to doctors that morning.
"I rang my dad to see if he had received a further update from the hospital, he hadn't. I rang the hospital and they confirmed she was still critical. This was a little heartbreaking," she said.
It made her question the accuracy of the information in the press conferences.
She worried people would not understand how serious the situation was.
Rest of the article at: http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/heartbreaking-southland-familys-covid-19-concern
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I quesitoned that after our first death in this thread about the seeming disparity of figures regarding ICU/stable/critical
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Regarding PPE, I went to donate plasma this morning and all staff are now wearing face masks and I did see some masks being disposed of, so it's not like they have to wear the same mask all day. If the NZ Blood Service have access to them I would find it hard to believe that doctors and nurses don't. Any problem seems to be with distribution/directives from the DHBs not with supply.
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Critical and stable are both medical terms and aren't mutually exclusive. Stable just means no change in condition, particularly deterioration, so it's possible to be both. That wasn't made obvious though and should have been.
Apparently another death in Southland - a 62 year old with underlying health issues. This is the youngest death in NZ and the first not in their 70s or older.
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Complete bullshit. Media is special because? Nearly every sector has been hard hit but they get special help.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback but they give us the news and when you listen to the questions they ask in these pressers, clearly they are providing a great and essential service
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback you scratch my back....
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@taniwharugby Including questions like "Will the second tranche of support funding be much higher than the first?"
NZ journalism during the Pandemic seems to be a mix of
- Drip feed snippets of press conferences a bit at a time and (try to) make it look like investigative journalism
- Agency pieces from overseas
- Social media comments
- Local equivalents of the old "Anyone here a white woman and been raped" i.e. Anyone think they should get more PPE ? or Anyone want to [ insert banned lockdown activity]? or even Anyone want to [ insert banned lockdown activity] while wearing PPE?
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@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Media took a 30% hit to advertising revenue after the GFC (because spending didn't rebound after), and that's the fear again. We can hate them all we like, but that's an industry at risk, unless we just want state-owned news sources.
or news sources that actually provide what people want and not just left wing propaganda outlets. Stuff is great example. iT has a ludicrous left wing slant, especially around climate change, and yet wants a handout, perhaps if they were not so shite they would have more advertsising.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Media took a 30% hit to advertising revenue after the GFC (because spending didn't rebound after), and that's the fear again. We can hate them all we like, but that's an industry at risk, unless we just want state-owned news sources.
or news sources that actually provide what people want and not just left wing propaganda outlets. Stuff is great example. iT has a ludicrous left wing slant, especially around climate change, and yet wants a handout, perhaps if they were not so shite they would have more advertsising.
I'm sure the world will be a better place when Stuff, the Herald, Newstalk ZB and TV3/Newshub disappear, and we get left with blogs, TVNZ and RNZ.
Also not sure where this advertising revenue is coming from if they pivot - advertisers usually want eyeballs/ears above all else.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Media took a 30% hit to advertising revenue after the GFC (because spending didn't rebound after), and that's the fear again. We can hate them all we like, but that's an industry at risk, unless we just want state-owned news sources.
or news sources that actually provide what people want and not just left wing propaganda outlets. Stuff is great example. iT has a ludicrous left wing slant, especially around climate change, and yet wants a handout, perhaps if they were not so shite they would have more advertsising.
Sadly they do try and provide what people want.
Often however, it just isn't what we as individuals want to read. You, because you dislike any view to the left of your political position. Me, because Mark Reason.The fact that we both know that they provide thing that we don't like shows that their usual metheods work to a degree.
I do admit that when they started asking for donations to continue quality journalism I thought that maybe they shoud look at starting first.
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@Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Media took a 30% hit to advertising revenue after the GFC (because spending didn't rebound after), and that's the fear again. We can hate them all we like, but that's an industry at risk, unless we just want state-owned news sources.
or news sources that actually provide what people want and not just left wing propaganda outlets. Stuff is great example. iT has a ludicrous left wing slant, especially around climate change, and yet wants a handout, perhaps if they were not so shite they would have more advertsising.
Sadly they do try and provide what people want.
Often however, it just isn't what we as individuals want to read. You, because you dislike any view to the left of your political position. Me, because Mark Reason.The fact that we both know that they provide thing that we don't like shows that their usual metheods work to a degree.
I do admit that when they started asking for donations to continue quality journalism I thought that maybe they shoud look at starting first.
They are incredibly left wing. They dont try to provide what people want, they try to provide what a sub section wants. They even try to justify to not allow any views arguing against climate change action can be allowed on their platform. That is not journalism, that is activism.
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@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Media took a 30% hit to advertising revenue after the GFC (because spending didn't rebound after), and that's the fear again. We can hate them all we like, but that's an industry at risk, unless we just want state-owned news sources.
or news sources that actually provide what people want and not just left wing propaganda outlets. Stuff is great example. iT has a ludicrous left wing slant, especially around climate change, and yet wants a handout, perhaps if they were not so shite they would have more advertsising.
I'm sure the world will be a better place when Stuff, the Herald, Newstalk ZB and TV3/Newshub disappear, and we get left with blogs, TVNZ and RNZ.
Also not sure where this advertising revenue is coming from if they pivot - advertisers usually want eyeballs/ears above all else.
You mean like what the govt is doing to the rest of the economy with its overkill lockdown? They are shredding players in every industry.. and leaving consumers with fewer options. Part of a govt induced deep recession... maybe they should, have thoughtthat the draconian lockdown a little more.
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