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@jegga said in The Folau Factor:
@Mokey said in The Folau Factor:
@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD Israel Folau says people like me are going to hell, so forgive me if I couldn't give a fat rats arse about how much he smiles. What the fuck has that got to do with anything? It is no evidence of character or morality.
As for calling Rathbone sanctimonious...Most of the fern is going to hell according to Phaleaux . Drunks and fornicators are joining you in Satan’s realm . To be honest I don’t want to spend eternity with the people with the trainspotters who are going to heaven .
Amen 😉
You want me to mind a place for you at the bar?
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@NTA said in The Folau Factor:
@jegga Remembering fornication is described as people who aren't married having sex.
I am married and the chances of me going to hell are slim to none most nights
Oh no you don’t mate. The Vatican says “2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action.”
You’re coming to Hell with us matey. I’ll save you a place too.
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@JC said in The Folau Factor:
@NTA said in The Folau Factor:
@jegga Remembering fornication is described as people who aren't married having sex.
I am married and the chances of me going to hell are slim to none most nights
Oh no you don’t mate. The Vatican says “2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action.”
You’re coming to Hell with us matey. I’ll save you a place too.
If they ever update that and base your entry into heaven on your internet history no one is getting in I reckon.
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@Siam I had a long post written, but it just came across wrongly. This is a goddamn minefield; I'm very anti Folau's views, but pro free speech. So not sure how much I'll weigh into this.
Remember - 2 years ago, 40% of voters opposed same sex marriage. I'm a firm supporter of that, but am starting to have concerns about (excuse the horribly cliched term) thought policing. Are people allowed to hold anti-same sex views? What views are acceptable? This goes right down the path of bloody Samoa banning Rocketman; I don't think it changes views, just drives them underground.
... and now I'm posting more than I want to. Will retire to the sidelines I think, and leave this one alone for a bit.
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@nzzp said in The Folau Factor:
@JC how the hell did you find that wee gem?
@Siam said in The Folau Factor:
@nzzp said in The Folau Factor:
@JC how the hell did you find that wee gem?
and why did I read it as though recited by rote? : )
These are both interesting questions that you esteemed gents have beaten me to asking.
@JC has some nascent religious guilt about going the flog, methinks. To the point of asking the Vatican!
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@Paekakboyz said in The Folau Factor:
@NTA as opposed to the missus's chances of getting to, ah, heaven? 😎😂😂
If it ever happens, she's well in the mood, so no issues there.
The cardboard cutout of Jason Momoa in the corner of the room also might have something to do with it
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in The Folau Factor:
@MajorRage said in The Folau Factor:
@Rancid-Schnitzel of course I don’t!
That’s Drew’s opinion, and people can agree or disagree with it - doesn’t make them right or wrong. I just happen to agree with him.
You think he’s bullshitting, I don’t. I’m
Ok to disagree.You agree with Drew that IF thinks he deserves money more than those other causes?
Drew’s opinion, I agree with it.
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@Rembrandt more free advertising for his page.
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$760,000 now. Large donations are still coming in, and it's a constant stream.
I'm tying this to that poll from the other day where 85% of people though there were restrictions on their freedom of speech.
Clearly a lot of people in Australia feel something similar. That said, be interesting to see what the country breakdown is for these donations.
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@Kirwan said in The Folau Factor:
Clearly a lot of people in Australia feel something similar. That said, be interesting to see what the country breakdown is for these donations.
I’m curious about this myself. I wonder when the Bible Belt in the U.S. gets a whiff of it.
And recalling, Raelene Castle herself in her presser a month ago said this case will have an effect that goes beyond rugby in Australia to all sports in Australia, and globally as well. She may well be right.
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@Kirwan said in The Folau Factor:
$760,000 now. Large donations are still coming in, and it's a constant stream.
There are apparently a few duplicates as well e.g. same person donating $500 twice - apparently to boost numbers of donors but I fail to see how that matters?
Anyway its going to be another culture-wars style of thing where the outrage on both sides climbs because somebody didn't like something the other side said or was perceived to have said.
I'm tying this to that poll from the other day where 85% of people though there were restrictions on their freedom of speech.
Clearly a lot of people in Australia feel something similar. That said, be interesting to see what the country breakdown is for these donations.
Where was the poll?
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Reports on social media that the Folau GoFundMe is no more?
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@NTA said in The Folau Factor:
Reports on social media that the Folau GoFundMe is no more?
..well the outrage brigade really have done it now.
If the bible belt hadn't heard about it yet they most certainly will in the next 24 hours.
He will get his $3million unless the gaystapo can shut down every funding platform in existence. I'm sure they will try, I wonder if payment processors and credit card companies might get in on the action too to stop such horrific 'wrong think'?
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@NTA said in The Folau Factor:
Reports on social media that the Folau GoFundMe is no more?
Ha ha! That's funny! Good Job!
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@NTA said in The Folau Factor:
@Rembrandt said in The Folau Factor:
unless the gaystapo
Free speech is wonderful.
It certainly is.
I'm sure plenty will be celebrating. Yay we won! The bigot has lost. Finally an end to homophobia! Great job team! Now who is going to be the next target?!
I'm sure all those donating will now see the error of their ways, will recognise the pride movement as one of peace, love and tolerance (or else!). No chance at all that this will harden their resolve, turn a dislike of the excesses of the pride movement to abject hatred and now view themselves as a victim class.
This doesn't end well.
Sports requiring athletes to support cultural positions