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@SouthernMann said in NZ Politics:
Will they do a better job? Nah. They'll just do a different kind of bad job.
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How much has the public service expanded by under Labour? I get that the PS has to pay competitively to attract talent but I have seen some alarmingly large numbers bandied about when the topic is the headcount increase.
You know what my major issue is with the Wtn bureaucracy thoug?. The working from fucking home.
Post Covid things have changed but corporates have gradually moved to a blended model that has the majority at any one time in the office. Meanwhile the public service seems to have the majority working from home. This was an opportunity for the government, as the Wellington CBD's largest employer, to support local businesses by mandating staff to return to the office.
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@SouthernMann said in NZ Politics:
Will they do a better job? Nah. They'll just do a different kind of bad job.
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How much has the public service expanded by under Labour? I get that the PS has to pay competitively to attract talent but I have seen some alarmingly large numbers bandied about when the topic is the headcount increase.
You know what my major issue is with the Wtn bureaucracy thoug?. The working from fucking home.
Post Covid things have changed but corporates have gradually moved to a blended model that has the majority at any one time in the office. Meanwhile the public service seems to have the majority working from home. This was an opportunity for the government, as the Wellington CBD's largest employer, to support local businesses by mandating staff to return to the office.
As a public servant currently sitting at home at the kitchen table, there is an expectation staff will be in the office at least 60% of the time within my organisation. Which is comparable to most private sector employers my friends work for.
What I find with working from home is I generally start earlier and finish about the same time.
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@nzzp and therein lies my problem. Labour at least has some actual goals, actual numbers and targets in there. Based on previous term of course they'll probably fail to meet them, but personally I find that preferable to not even having a target for the government to be marked against. One 'pledge card' is a good chance to end up not being worth the paper it is printed on, the other isn't worth the paper it is printed on right fucking now.
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@reprobate said in NZ Politics:
what a joke. do you vote for those with a history of not meeting their promises, or those who aren't even prepared to promise anything?
I have got incredibly cynical in the last few year. Politics drives normal people to lie throught their teeth, and promise anything to get re-elected. It's the only part of the job that's importnat - get re-elected.
Media don't help. There is stuff all discussion about waht makes things better for the country, and lots of 'what's in it for you' - Budgets, Election promises, etc. It sucks.
I posted Labour's for comparison, thought it was useful contrast. For fun, here was Helen Clarke's from 2002. You won't like it - only the apprenticeships is actually numerical
Also, you as a taxpayer initially paid for this, so at least that's changed- Work with all sectors to create an innovative growing economy with more jobs.
- Better access to primary health care so problems can be tackled earlier.
- Keep tertiary education affordable. Get more teachers into schools.
- Put Government funds aside now to guarantee current superannuation for everyone in the future.
- Double the number of modern apprenticeships.
- Tougher sentences for the most serious offenders. More support for proven programmes to cut youth offending.
- No rise in rates of income tax, GST, or company tax.
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@nzzp said in NZ Politics:
I have got incredibly cynical in the last few year. Politics drives normal people to lie throught their teeth, and promise anything to get re-elected. It's the only part of the job that's importnat - get re-elected.
Media don't help. There is stuff all discussion about waht makes things better for the country, and lots of 'what's in it for you' - Budgets, Election promises, etc. It sucks.
this is the key point
Real change involves a loser. Somewhere, someone will lose something they have in the short term. And the media will ramp up that narrative, the party will get smacked in a poll, and they will back off.
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@SouthernMann I deal with several departments where coming in to the office is pretty much optional.
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@Tim said in NZ Politics:
Question time!
Has there been any mention during the campaign of:
GDP per capita
Industrial Policy
Export market diversification
Improving electrical grid capacity and reliability
Building more hydroelectric dams
Reducing electricity cost
Restoring the all party accord on climate change and restarting natural gas exploration. (Natural gas is the primary feed stock for the chemical industry, and methanol production is the first step in many cases. We will never stop using it as a feed stock.)
Increasing NZ spending on R&D as a proportion of GDP
Detailed descriptions of removing other barriers to growth.
Replacing dairy as an export if climate targets are adhered to.Don't forget NZ's disgraceful education standards! More stupid bullshit to replace science teaching coming soon.
Anyone mentioning productivity?
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Another frustrating interview with Chris Luxon this morning on Newshub Nation. His comments are quite belittling to the public. Somewhat inferring that the public doesn't want to know they can came to their assertions, but to just trust him. As a politician he acts quite petulent when his statements aren't being blindly trusted, and questions come towards him. There is a simple way out of these questions, release the workings. Tax cuts are an easy solution. If the workings to the solution fail, there is a world of hurt. We keep on hearing National are strong financial managers. Who in the National party are strong financial managers? I certainly commend the National Party for its comms approach. But its evidence is pretty thin.
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Luxon's surprisingly good on the hustings doing things like eating ice creams and connecting 1-1 but he is doing everything he can to avoid answering any questions on National's policies - such as they are especially considering economists from across the political spectrum are united in saying they don't stack up.
Who can blame him. People are over Labour. They don't particularly like National but they want change. Luxon doesn't want to say or do anything that might prevent National sleep walking to victory.I feel quite dirty but Wayne Brown summed it up quite nicely for me -
"I’m a swing voter. It’s a bit like arriving late in Te Awamutu and there’s only one food shop open and you’re hungry and there’s only five really unappealing items on the menu, and I’m not sure what to do. I think quite a lot of people will go home hungry, really.
No party is wholly good or wholly bad. There’s bits and pieces out of all parties which are not bad… there’s some good ministers in both of the main parties, and some shockers…"
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
Who can blame him. People are over Labour. They don't particularly like National but they want change. Luxon doesn't want to say or do anything that might prevent National sleep walking to victory.
my mate said you could wrap a potato in a blue jacket this election and it would probably win.
Sadly true.
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@nzzp said in NZ Politics:
my mate said you could wrap a potato in a blue jacket this election and it would probably win.
Sadly true.
Really? Am sending over Peter Dutton by express airmail...
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@nzzp said in NZ Politics:
@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
Who can blame him. People are over Labour. They don't particularly like National but they want change. Luxon doesn't want to say or do anything that might prevent National sleep walking to victory.
my mate said you could wrap a potato in a blue jacket this election and it would probably win.
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
Luxon's surprisingly good on the hustings doing things like eating ice creams and connecting 1-1 but he is doing everything he can to avoid answering any questions on National's policies - such as they are especially considering economists from across the political spectrum are united in saying they don't stack up.
Who can blame him. People are over Labour. They don't particularly like National but they want change. Luxon doesn't want to say or do anything that might prevent National sleep walking to victory.I feel quite dirty but Wayne Brown summed it up quite nicely for me -
"I’m a swing voter. It’s a bit like arriving late in Te Awamutu and there’s only one food shop open and you’re hungry and there’s only five really unappealing items on the menu, and I’m not sure what to do. I think quite a lot of people will go home hungry, really.
No party is wholly good or wholly bad. There’s bits and pieces out of all parties which are not bad… there’s some good ministers in both of the main parties, and some shockers…"
Well fuck Wayne Brown very much.
TA has an excellent bakery (Viands) and at least one good place to eat that is open late.
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"and I’m not sure what to do" apart from abusing bystanders and staff, that does sound like Wayne Kelvin Forrest Brown (was he born during a bush fire?)
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
Luxon coming across well in Leader's debate 1.
Just returned to NZ for a short visit. And watched the interview below with Hipkins
If Luxon can't get the better of Hipkins he should just give up. Hipkins came across as a nice boy. Bill Rowling came across as a powerful, macho, manly man in comparison (maybe I'm showing my age). Unsure how in God's name Labour thought he was a good person to lead the party. And I wonder if he's worked out what a woman is yet?
Hipkins 'concerned' supermarkets not treating consumers well as Ryan Bridge confronts him with cucumber
The Labour leader says he's committed to making sure 100 percent of the 15 percent coming off fruit and vegetables is passed on to consumers.
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