Black Caps vs England Series
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@Dodge said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@MN5 said in Black Caps vs England Series:
this is SO TRUE. The grounds are beautiful, really love seeing the crowds turn up and sit on the banks. I wish we had some similar grounds hosting test cricket instead of the increasingly unattractive grounds we have in England.
Old Trafford is one of the ugliest grounds i've ever seen, the Oval is getting uglier every time they add a new stand, the one next to the pavilion now (the Galadari Stand) is horrible and looks like a multi storey car park, and worse, it has replaced the Peter May, Laker and Lock stands - just because a rich bloke gave Surrey some money.
The Basin is outstanding. Nothing but really good comments in the FB post I stole this from. The one that stood out was that you can stroll around and watch from so many different vantage points.
They should have ODIs there, 10k there looks so much better than 15k at the cake tin.
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I’m off to Hamilton tomorrow and Sunday. I feared a dead rubber but fuck it, the AirBNB is booked.
It feels very 1990’s Black Caps this team.. A bit average, plus Kane. Lots of averages close to 30 and no confidence.
If we get the win we will be Papering over the cracks and be plucky losers, if we lose then there might be some plaster involved but hey, it will be explained away as a changing of guard. I love the BCs but 3-0 vs 2-1 might help us in the long run.
Either way we have looked weak of skill and sadly weaker of mind in this series. WTF happened in India?
I hope there is some fight left in these guys so I don’t have to drown my sorrows in BRB! -
@MN5 said in Black Caps vs England Series:
Santner in for Smith.
No wonder we've lost this series.
It seems like we've treated this more like a farewell benefit series for Southee than a chance to make the WTC final.
No one in their right mind could say that Southee has performed better than Smith at anytime during the last two games.
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@Rapido said in Black Caps vs England Series:
On a positive note. While it is Southee's last test, it is also almost definitely Stead's last test.
I'm very curious about how he'll be remembered in say 20 years. His highlights are incredible - 3-0 is India, WTC champions and an ODI and T20 final. I can definitely see plenty of people calling him the greatest Black Caps coach ever on those achievements. We remember the absolute dross from almost every other series though (is there any other series that we've been reolly impressive in? My memory is that we've either made series we were favourites in look closer than they should have been or lost, but I might be forgetting some other solid performances. I think we won a series in England before the WTC which I think is only our second away win in England?).
I suspect that that dross will be forgotten and his legacy will only improve, and be a source of much debate fans.
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@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@Cyclops I'll remember Hesson a lot more favourably than Stead.
He built the team that won the WTC. Stead merely managed it. If some of the talent coming through now blossoms, he could he credited with leaving us in a good place
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NZ without loss at lunch? Has the team that went to India finally found the ground?
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps vs England Series:
Ravindra once again with all of the talent and little temperament.
Can’t help but agree. Needs to really address that…..or perhaps we have to accept that’s how he plays, kind of our version of David Gower or Mark Waugh.
He’s not at their level yet either
