World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game
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Points or card
Not both
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The Law of Unintended Consequences
'We need to speed up the game'
'How about not straight at the line out when the defending team doesn't compete is play on?'
'Great. Implement it'
Most defending teams won't go up at a 5m line out as they wait for the attacking catcher to come back to earth so they can execute a legal counter maul
So there's no onus on the hooker to throw straight which creates a greater chance of securing possession and setting up an impregnable maul
This has increased the likelihood of the attacking team scoring and because they're in a stronger position (formation wise) more likelihood that the defending team will commit a foul resulting in a Penalty Try and/or YC.
The review by ref and TMO has actually slowed the game down and made the lineout less of a contest.
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@MiketheSnow That rule change is fucking dumb, I don't know what they're trying to achieve, but if it is speeding the game up by avoiding a stoppage then just change it to a free-kick for not straight, no lineout or scrum. Quicker, doesn't fuck other things up, and doesn't need an extra determination by refs who already can't cope with the complexity of the game.
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@reprobate said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
Oh and enforce a time limit on the free-kick.
And scrums, emphasis on enforce
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@Machpants said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
enforce
I think if they emphasised that on many existing rules, it would clean things up a bit
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@Windows97 said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
The only way to have 30 second scrums is to start blowing penalites if teams are taking too long...good luck there...
Or stop the clock like they do in league. Make the fatties play every second they waste
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@reprobate said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@Windows97 Yeah, better than nothing, but they still get a rest. I'd be all in favour of just hammering any time-wasting with free-kicks. The game would change overnight for the better.
Time limit to be ready to engage. If either of the packs don't form up in time they concede a free kick
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@reprobate said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@canefan and if you're not ready to engage because of "injury" that player leaves the field.
I'm a big fan of the football rule that an injured player be removed from the field to receive treatment while the game continues, and that player can't return until the next stoppage
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@MiketheSnow
totally agree
how it is done now is just stupid, like kicking someone when they are down . . . nicethe ref should actually go for the YC quicker, and get the infringing defender off the field
and when the team with the man advantage scores, the YC player should then come back on
the YC team would then be back to full strength after the score, not a man down!net result being; because the ref goes for the YC quicker, i thnk defenders will infringe less, and the team with momentum will score quicker, speeding the whole game up
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yeah a lot of the injuries and f'ing about at scrum time is to give the fat guys a rest
i heard a top level pro soccer player recently say that a lot of players going down injured in soccer is just to give everyone a rest, and not just to get a free kick or someone YC'dplayers trying to get someone YC'd is an extremly unattractive watch
in ice hockey you can get binned for enhancement, making it a risky strategy
the transgressor and the enhancer can both be binned at the same time
rugby officials would probably only have do that a couple times and most of it would be out of the gameand here is a radical thought . . . why not penalise the dominant scrum when it turns into a mess
e.g. anywhere else on the field players going headfirst into the ground is going to get someone RC'd
a dominant frontrow deliberately forcing the oppostion to collapse has to be dangerous play
if a team is that dominant the resonsibilty is on them prevent that, not do it! -
@mohikamo said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
yeah a lot of the injuries and f'ing about at scrum time is to give the fat guys a rest
i heard a top level pro soccer player recently say that a lot of players going down injured in soccer is just to give everyone a rest, and not just to get a free kick or someone YC'dplayers trying to get someone YC'd is an extremly unattractive watch
in ice hockey you can get binned for enhancement, making it a risky strategy
the transgressor and the enhancer can both be binned at the same time
rugby officials would probably only have do that a couple times and most of it would be out of the gameand here is a radical thought . . . why not penalise the dominant scrum when it turns into a mess
e.g. anywhere else on the field players going headfirst into the ground is going to get someone RC'd
a dominant frontrow deliberately forcing the oppostion to collapse has to be dangerous play
if a team is that dominant the resonsibilty is on them prevent that, not do it!You post some good stuff man
But this ain’t an example of it
This is some batshit crazy bullshit
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@MiketheSnow said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
The Law of Unintended Consequences
'We need to speed up the game'
'How about not straight at the line out when the defending team doesn't compete is play on?'
'Great. Implement it'
Most defending teams won't go up at a 5m line out as they wait for the attacking catcher to come back to earth so they can execute a legal counter maul
So there's no onus on the hooker to throw straight which creates a greater chance of securing possession and setting up an impregnable maul
This has increased the likelihood of the attacking team scoring and because they're in a stronger position (formation wise) more likelihood that the defending team will commit a foul resulting in a Penalty Try and/or YC.
The review by ref and TMO has actually slowed the game down and made the lineout less of a contest.
I agree but I’m even more offended by refs just ignoring the fact that the attacking team are getting into position to maul before the hooker has even released the ball, two or three men step outside of the line and circle behind the receiver, what happened to not leaving or joining the lineout until it’s moved off the plane?