Taranaki v Waikato (QF)
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Amazed but pleased Waikato won that. Ref seemed to be picking and choosing what he would ping or allow at breakdown. Great captaincy and kicking game from Xavier Roe despite what I thought was illegal tactics on him and the ruck clearance.
Oli Mathis has a huge future, and Ollie Norris was great tonight. Naholo, Jacomb and Lord all looked classy too.
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@Yeetyaah said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
@Canes4life ah must have missed that rule, cheers
Need to be directly from the kick tho. Like he can't run a few metres and get away with that.
Bottom of this page:
https://www.world.rugby/the-game/laws/law/16#:~:text=A maul can take place,Sanction%3A Penalty.
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It's been a pretty entertaining NPC this year.
Crazy to think that if North Harbour had beaten Southland last week, as they were heavily expected to do, Waikato would've missed out on the top eight altogether, and now they've just knocked out the second seeds at home...
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@Canes4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
Shouldn’t be a card
That's a YC all day
Close to RC if he hadn't dipped
Not much of an attempt to wrap IMHO
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@MiketheSnow said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
@Canes4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
Shouldn’t be a card
That's a YC all day
Close to RC if he hadn't dipped
Not much of an attempt to wrap IMHO
if he hadnt dipped would have got him in the chest
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Well went up to game, had impression Naki boys may of had a bit of shield hangover or something. Very much had impression in first half they were almost going through motions. They seemed to be doing moves etc, but just not looking excited or something as they did? Hard to explain.
Missed Boshier and Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens I thought.
Actually reasonably comfortable with result at end of game, Waikato deserved win and I had said I couldn't see us winning the comp this year.
For Waikato , I can see why AB selectors like Jacobson, stops opposition players, and was good over ball, also puts himself in good positions to make it hard fot oppsition. -
@ploughboy said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
@MiketheSnow said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
@Canes4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
Shouldn’t be a card
That's a YC all day
Close to RC if he hadn't dipped
Not much of an attempt to wrap IMHO
if he hadnt dipped would have got him in the chest
And he didn’t and got his deserved censure
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@MiketheSnow said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
@ploughboy said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
@MiketheSnow said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
@Canes4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
Shouldn’t be a card
That's a YC all day
Close to RC if he hadn't dipped
Not much of an attempt to wrap IMHO
if he hadnt dipped would have got him in the chest
And he didn’t and got his deserved censure
josh j dipped
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@ploughboy said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
@MiketheSnow said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
@ploughboy said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
@MiketheSnow said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
@Canes4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
Shouldn’t be a card
That's a YC all day
Close to RC if he hadn't dipped
Not much of an attempt to wrap IMHO
if he hadnt dipped would have got him in the chest
And he didn’t and got his deserved censure
josh j dipped
Exactly
Finau didn’t react to the attacker’s position
His target area was most probably 20cm x 20cm
High reward, high risk
Dropping his right shoulder didn’t help him with either accuracy or reaction time
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That is the worst fucking take Mike with all due respect
Finau's back is parallel with the ground, he's done everything he can. The tackled player at the last second dips in to him. I love that you think he can magically stop time and do something different.
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My 2c.
It was a yellow for the indirect head contact. That's the laws.
But in terms of deservedness:
- Finau was crouched low
- Jacomb dipped
- first contact was with the upper arm/shoulder, thus
- head contact was indirect
It was a tough yellow IMO.
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@booboo said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
My 2c.
It was a yellow for the indirect head contact. That's the laws.
But in terms of deservedness:
- Finau was crouched low
- Jacomb dipped
- first contact was with the upper arm/shoulder, thus
- head contact was indirect
It was a tough yellow IMO.
Head contact alone isn't enough. The second question is was there foul play
Now I couldn't hear the ref because Marshall was was saying same inane shit over the top of the ref. Personally I think Finau mostly bent at the hips however there was no attempt to wrap.. a trailing arm is not a wrap
Video for those that missed it:
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I didn't have sound at game, and as a Naki supporter I thought it perhaps fair if harsh yellow. And sorry @Toddy even I thought he used his arms, his first contact is with shouder (as all tackles should be) but definitely no cocked arms for a shoulder slam or anything.
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@mariner4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
That is the worst fucking take Mike with all due respect
Finau's back is parallel with the ground, he's done everything he can. The tackled player at the last second dips in to him. I love that you think he can magically stop time and do something different.
Our opinions differ
IMHO the video evidence posted shows it was YC worthy for the reasons outlined
If the target area had been the guts with proper tackling technique we wouldn’t be having this discussion
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It was.
I love how the target area has to be lower than legal or your in the wrong. He's not even coming up like those ones you see that go really wrong.
This was caused by the tackled player but apparently that isn't a thing.
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@mariner4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):
It was.
I love how the target area has to be lower than legal or your in the wrong. He's not even coming up like those ones you see that go really wrong.
This was caused by the tackled player but apparently that isn't a thing.
The tackled player dipped 15cm
Fine margins
This time Fin-ow
