All Blacks EOYT
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@Nepia said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
If we picked Sotutu and he failed, the claim would be why isn't Sititi in the ABs
No it wouldn't have been, even Chiefs fans were surprised by his elevation.
I'm not talking about at the time, I'm taking about right here right now. Sititi would have ripped it up in the NPC, and people would be clamouring for him.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:
If Roigard becomes Blackadder 3.0 and gets injured then you're stuck with TJP playing minutes
I think that's a big part of the reason, though.
If Roigard gets injured, they've got 87 test Perenara to call on - as opposed to Hotham, who so far has had 40 minutes off the bench vs Fiji.
Hotham is still incredibly raw...
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@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Nepia said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
If we picked Sotutu and he failed, the claim would be why isn't Sititi in the ABs
No it wouldn't have been, even Chiefs fans were surprised by his elevation.
I'm not talking about at the time, I'm taking about right here right now. Sititi would have ripped it up in the NPC, and people would be clamouring for him.
Well if Sotutu failed in his tests he'd likely be dropped for Sititi anyway. And who knows what form he would have had in the NPC in your alternate universe.
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@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:
If Roigard becomes Blackadder 3.0 and gets injured then you're stuck with TJP playing minutes
I think that's a big part of the reason, though.
If Roigard gets injured, they've got 87 test Perenara to call on - as opposed to Hotham, who so far has had 40 minutes off the bench vs Fiji.
Hotham is still incredibly raw...
I'll take raw versus burnt out
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks EOYT:
Robertson is saying Cane and TJP have important mentoring roles to play off the field as well as contributing on it.
Does it take much to teach someone how to be a mouthy cun*?
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@frugby TJ played in every game in TRC and Hotham didn't play any, so it's pretty clear they prefer TJ for now.
There's definitely a case to pick Noah - or even Finlay Christie - for this tour, but I don't mind that they've picked TJ and left the other two with NZ A.
The halfbacks can all have another season of Super rugby to sort things out - and TJ will be out of the picture. In the meantime, I'm happy to go with what they think will win.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks EOYT:
didn’t watch super this year
It all makes sense now
I’m being honest I didn’t. But man some posters are dying on the hill of sotutu and it’s getting a bit boring tbh. If gets his chance he better being absolutely amazing.
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks EOYT:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks EOYT:
There's no justification for leaving Akira and Sotutu out, and it really surprises me that people are bending over backwards trying to justify it given 1) it weakens the ABs and 2) our biggest weakness is in the loosies, costing us games this year.
There’s every justification for leaving akira out. Never really performed at AB level, heading overseas. We’ve already seen more from Sititi then we ever saw from akira.
Sotutu didn’t watch super this year so no comment on form but he also never made his mark at AB level albeit with fewer opportunities than Akira. Apparently not really lighting up NPC.
Plenty of players look good at super and dud at international so you can’t extrapolate and say he would be amazing if only he’d been given the chance. If he gets named in AB XV he better be freaking amazing.
Havili says hi.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks EOYT:
Robertson is saying Cane and TJP have important mentoring roles to play off the field as well as contributing on it.
TJP will tutor them in the talking to the ref class. Sam Cane will provide expertise in high and dangerous rackles.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby TJ played in every game in TRC and Hotham didn't play any, so it's pretty clear they prefer TJ for now.
There's definitely a case to pick Noah - or even Finlay Christie - for this tour, but I don't mind that they've picked TJ and left the other two with NZ A.
The halfbacks can all have another season of Super rugby to sort things out - and TJ will be out of the picture. In the meantime, I'm happy to go with what they think will win.
I'd be happier if they went with what will win
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@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:
If Roigard becomes Blackadder 3.0 and gets injured then you're stuck with TJP playing minutes
I think that's a big part of the reason, though.
If Roigard gets injured, they've got 87 test Perenara to call on - as opposed to Hotham, who so far has had 40 minutes off the bench vs Fiji.
Hotham is still incredibly raw...
It was always going to be between TJS and the person who supplanted him in ABs.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks EOYT:
Robertson is saying Cane and TJP have important mentoring roles to play off the field as well as contributing on it.
TJP will tutor them in the talking to the ref class. Sam Cane will provide expertise in high and dangerous rackles.
Nah, TJP is there to pass on how to lead the Haka
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@reprobate said in All Blacks EOYT:
Fuck's sake Razor, grow a pair.
Yep. Wasted opportunity to develop a squad for the future. Much as though Cane epitomised everything good about being an AB, he shouldn't be there and neither should Perenara.
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@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
Fact is, Razor is still working out which players are best suited to his gameplan, and I don't think the tests we have had so far are really enough to give definitive answers.
How many Tests does he need? 20? 30?
The key is to get the best out of our best players, and in the last test we won by 20 points. This meltdown is mental...
That last Test was a bit of an outlier, though, wasn't it? And it was against the 10th ranked team in the world....
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
Fact is, Razor is still working out which players are best suited to his gameplan, and I don't think the tests we have had so far are really enough to give definitive answers.
How many Tests does he need? 20? 30?
The key is to get the best out of our best players, and in the last test we won by 20 points. This meltdown is mental...
That last Test was a bit of an outlier, though, wasn't it? And it was against the 10th ranked team in the world....
Yeah I love how people are trying to claim that beating a woeful Wallabies outfit is some sort of massive achievement now. It's the least we should be doing against opposition like that.
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Ignore the first third or so about the French not turning up, some good loose forward analysis
Will the withdrawal of the ‘top 20’ devalue France’s tour of New Zealand?
In resting Antoine Dupont and the rest of his 'premiums', has Fabien Galthie undermined a mouth-watering voyage?
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Duluth said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks EOYT:
didn’t watch super this year
It all makes sense now
I’m being honest I didn’t. But man some posters are dying on the hill of sotutu and it’s getting a bit boring tbh. If gets his chance he better being absolutely amazing.
For your sake because you couldn't be bothered watching him play an outstanding - a really fucking best player in the comp outstanding - season in the competition which ought to decide selection?
And he better be amazing... as opposed to our selected loosies who were outplayed by Argentina, SA and Australia?
