Black Caps v South Africa
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@Cyclops said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
I'd give it to Kane, but suspect it will go to Rachin. Both deserving candidates, but I think two tons in the tougher achievement plus his second innings effort made it look like he was batting on a different pitch compared to the rest of the team.
Nope, Ravindra got it.
Well done son. First of many big scores I’m hoping
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@Cyclops said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
I'd give it to Kane, but suspect it will go to Rachin. Both deserving candidates, but I think two tons in the tougher achievement plus his second innings effort made it look like he was batting on a different pitch compared to the rest of the team.
I think it would have been bloody close.
I just give it Rachin for the 2 wickets he got. Otherwise it would have been very hard to pick.
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Tough on Kane but Rachin's knock dictated the flow of the game and made it almost inevitable what the result would be.
Williamson fails in the second innings and we had plenty of other batters who could knock off a quick 30-40 each to position us for the same overnight declaration.
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@Gunner said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
Just read that Daryl Mitchell won’t play the second test, nor the T20’s against Aussie.
**Bit of a blow, but we have good batting cover in Will Young.
Or do they slot in an extra seamer and just push Phillips up to bat 5?**
Either option is fine I reckon. This protea team actually did well to get as close as they did.
Bring in Wags, everyone else moves up one. Or Phillips goes to five, Blundell stays at six. Whatever works.
Matt Henry to eight please, he has genuine batting pedigree.
I would really like to see Will Young get a go though in saying all that.
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@MN5 where would Young bat? I wonder if they will be enticed to shift the out of form Conway down and open with Young.
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@Canes4life said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
@MN5 where would Young bat? I wonder if they will be enticed to shift the out of form Conway down and open with Young.
I wouldn’t be surprised whatever they do but all of those are options.
The good thing is with the emergence of Ravindra there’s much less of a “oh fuck, Mitchell isn’t available” feeling……
Conways form is an issue though. I put it out here that he might be in danger of being replaced by Young anyway and he didn’t do himself too many favours against SA. A duck and a streaky 29. Not ideal.
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Conway was starting to look ok-ish in his 2nd bat before he threw his wicket away via sacrifice to get quicker runs. Which was pretty much 80% of the wickets we gave up during the test.
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@Canes4life said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
@Virgil I think we keep persisting with him as an opener, we know how good he can be so let's just hope he can bat his way into form before the Aussies turn up.
For sure, losing form as a Test opener must be one of the hardest places to be.
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Conway looked better in the 2nd innings still lack of foot movement and his hands being to far away from the body leading to an unnatural arc of the bat are issues, but they were a bit less prominent in that innings.
He just looked rusty, opening his shoulders trying to get quick runs will be good for his head space and get his feet moving more.
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@Chris Sounds a lot like the former CD batsman before him Jamie How. Technique looked good on the eye, but would always bring the slips into play with the very hard hands he would go with.
Both Young and How have very similar records too, it's like a reincarnation as to how similar they both are.
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@African-Monkey said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
@Chris Sounds a lot like the former CD batsman before him Jamie How. Technique looked good on the eye, but would always bring the slips into play with the very hard hands he would go with.
Both Young and How have very similar records too, it's like a reincarnation as to how similar they both are.
Yeah Good call very similar players and similar weakness.
Both lose their off stumps so play too much down off stump instead of 4th stump line to the moving ball and both had/have hard hands as you mentioned so they commit to early. -
Uncapped O'Rourke likely to play ahead of Wagner in Hamilton Test
New Zealand captain Southee says the tall quick "has a good chance" to make his Test debut
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A bit of talk about Conway's struggles, and rightly so, but I think Latham hasn't been setting the world on fire either. We used to be able to rely on him scoring well against teams apart from the big guns, but his runs seem to have dried up against everybody now.
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The article says that Young WILL start. Ok, I’m fine with that, let’s give him another chance.
But they still need to leave out a bowler to accomodate O’Rourke much as I wish it were Wagner.
Who would that be ? Phillips ? 39 with the bat and 1-30 with the ball is pretty ho hum. I can’t see them getting rid of the rejuvenated Santner after his six wickets in the match.
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Wagner or Santner I assume.
Edit: Actually stuff article yesterday mentioned Jamieson as being rested. But not heard / read that anywhere else.But with the new selector, it is harder to read now(yet) what they are working to. I don't know if the 4 seamers is still a desired balance for them (in a post-Wagner world) or if Santner is a horses for courses Mt Maunganui selection. We will find out as the season progresses, although this test v weakened South Africa won't tell us, as there is still the possibility for depth building and rotation, experimentation to be happening.
But, kudos to Sam Wells so far. IMO.
