All Blacks 2024
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its also so blatantly self fore filling.....razor bends or changes the rules to get RM back...at +30 years old...clearly with the intent of running him through until the RWC....so another generation of 10's tell themselves its at least another 2-3 years before i get a good shot...fuck it i have bills to pay...pick form the guys we have...pick on form...reward those playing well and playing in NZ
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:
Well said Beaver, even more of a legend
'This Springboks argument will never wash with me' - Ex-All Black's epic rant in response to Scott Robertson's plea
Ex-All Blacks fly-half Stephen Donald says the Springboks argument over eligibilty doesn't "wash" with him and accused Scott Robertson of "giving up".
A man who know how to perform on the big stage.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
I do find it amusing, highlighted by Parsons and Hall on the ARP, that some commentators mention that the record could have been better but for the close loses, and fail to acknowledge the close wins (Eng x 3, Aust) that could have went the other way. Fine margins.
Glass half full guys
Mind you, everyone's gonna stand up for him when they made him out to be the best thing since sliced bread during the Fozzie reign.
Fozzie just had to breathe and the media and public (especially Cantabs) were out to get him.
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Still can't over DMac not having the starting reins after a wonderful performance against Ireland.
Compare that to the starting first five performance vs England where I was pulling my hair out
I just don't get it
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This comment from Razor kind of pisses me off
“They’ve got a got a great balance. They’ve got youth coming through, they’ve got great benches, they finish over top of teams and they’ve got big squads – they can have two really quality XVs"
And how do you know we don't Scott?
I just did the tedious process of going through our lineups this year, and the stark reality is, the selectors played the same guys all game every game.
Williams, Taylor, Lomax, Vaai, SBarrett, Savea, BBarrett, DMac JBarrett, and Ioane, all basically started every game this year, and played huge minutes. Cane, Jordan, Clarke and Patty T played every game they were available. Once Sititi took his chance, he played non stop. ALB locked in one bench spot, and started any time JB didn't. EdG was the other one if he didn't be a bit naughty.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
I do find it amusing, highlighted by Parsons and Hall on the ARP, that some commentators mention that the record could have been better but for the close loses, and fail to acknowledge the close wins (Eng x 3, Aust) that could have went the other way. Fine margins.
Glass half full guys
Mind you, everyone's gonna stand up for him when they made him out to be the best thing since sliced bread during the Fozzie reign.
Fozzie just had to breathe and the media and public (especially Cantabs) were out to get him.
Harsh generalisation. I welcomed him, as did a number of others. But he has not lived up to his promise so far, and deserves to be put on notice with a no holds barred end of season performance review
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
This comment from Razor kind of pisses me off
“They’ve got a got a great balance. They’ve got youth coming through, they’ve got great benches, they finish over top of teams and they’ve got big squads – they can have two really quality XVs"
And how do you know we don't Scott?
I just did the tedious process of going through our lineups this year, and the stark reality is, the selectors played the same guys all game every game.
Williams, Taylor, Lomax, Vaai, SBarrett, Savea, BBarrett, DMac JBarrett, and Ioane, all basically started every game this year, and played huge minutes. Cane, Jordan, Clarke and Patty T played every game they were available. Once Sititi took his chance, he played non stop. ALB locked in one bench spot, and started any time JB didn't. EdG was the other one if he didn't be a bit naughty.
Those guys played nearly the whole season in terms of the minutes available. No one else got a reasonable shot at anything.Most unlike Rassie
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@African-Monkey said in [All Blacks 2024](/post/1009071
Fozzie just had to breathe and the media and public (especially Cantabs) were out to get him.
Which was fair enough as his results were largely shit. If Robertson’s results continue like that we should expect the same response. Hopefully he wouldn’t get reappointed after one decent result as well (yes I know he has 4 years).
Next year is actually much more in our favour for a good year. France are sending a reduced strength squad and we have 3 tests against them, both SA games are in NZ, even the Ireland match is Chicago (yes we have a 100% loss record there but it should be easier than Dublin). No Japan or Fiji matches to pad percentages but realistically I think we should only lose one, at most two, otherwise I will be disappointed.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:
Well said Beaver, even more of a legend
Ex-All Blacks fly-half Stephen Donald says the Springboks argument over eligibilty doesn't "wash" with him and accused Scott Robertson of "giving up".
100 % agree with Beaver and good on him for coming out and saying it.Stay in NZ or come back and play in NZ then you get picked.
If you don't you have made your choice the AB jersey is cheapened so are our competitions and the NZ rugby public are shafted if it changes. -
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
I do find it amusing, highlighted by Parsons and Hall on the ARP, that some commentators mention that the record could have been better but for the close loses, and fail to acknowledge the close wins (Eng x 3, Aust) that could have went the other way. Fine margins.
Glass half full guys
Mind you, everyone's gonna stand up for him when they made him out to be the best thing since sliced bread during the Fozzie reign.
Fozzie just had to breathe and the media and public (especially Cantabs) were out to get him.
Harsh generalisation. I welcomed him, as did a number of others. But he has not lived up to his promise so far, and deserves to be put on notice with a no holds barred end of season performance review
Yeah and guys like yourself have called him out on his shortcomings, unlike a lot of his followers who just defend everything he does because it's him.
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i havent felt a twang of patriotism like that in years. Absolutely beautiful from Beaver
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
One fucking guy prepared to just say what they think. Build a show for the Beaver.
Can we give Wilson, Kirwan etc the boot and re-name the Breakdown, 'the Breakdown with Beave?
Love that response from Beaver.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
I do find it amusing, highlighted by Parsons and Hall on the ARP, that some commentators mention that the record could have been better but for the close loses, and fail to acknowledge the close wins (Eng x 3, Aust) that could have went the other way. Fine margins.
Glass half full guys
Mind you, everyone's gonna stand up for him when they made him out to be the best thing since sliced bread during the Fozzie reign.
Fozzie just had to breathe and the media and public (especially Cantabs) were out to get him.
Harsh generalisation. I welcomed him, as did a number of others. But he has not lived up to his promise so far, and deserves to be put on notice with a no holds barred end of season performance review
Yeah and guys like yourself have called him out on his shortcomings, unlike a lot of his followers who just defend everything he does because it's him.
Who are these people? Happening in other places? I haven't noticed any unconditional defenders on here.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
I do find it amusing, highlighted by Parsons and Hall on the ARP, that some commentators mention that the record could have been better but for the close loses, and fail to acknowledge the close wins (Eng x 3, Aust) that could have went the other way. Fine margins.
Glass half full guys
Mind you, everyone's gonna stand up for him when they made him out to be the best thing since sliced bread during the Fozzie reign.
Fozzie just had to breathe and the media and public (especially Cantabs) were out to get him.
Harsh generalisation. I welcomed him, as did a number of others. But he has not lived up to his promise so far, and deserves to be put on notice with a no holds barred end of season performance review
Yeah and guys like yourself have called him out on his shortcomings, unlike a lot of his followers who just defend everything he does because it's him.
Who are these people? Happening in other places? I haven't noticed any unconditional defenders on here.
agreed, they are thin on the ground, most, like me, were excited...and now disappointed or at least weary about the future
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The two games away in Argentina will be a challenge. We do appear to have a more settled squad than last year, not that many departing other than Sam Cane and TJP. Sounds like Razor is pushing hard for the rules to change, sounds like overtures have been made to Jack Goodhue who has signed on to an extra year. RM and SF were initially who he secked to change the rule for, it appears they are coming back at some stage. LF return will be important as well, he left at a young age.
