RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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@Victor-Meldrew that is baffling to me.
Any supposed superiority in Christie's defence is more than negated by Roigard's superiority elsewhere.
So again, I think it's baffling.
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@BerniesCorner said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Not one to cause alarm but Roigard was a breath of fresh air at Twickenham. It was only South Africa though.
Any new bloke coming on with the game well and truly over and having a go would have looked a breath of fresh air in that shit-show.
What was way more impressive was the way he calmed himself down after a shit start against Uruguay and then played like he was born to the role.
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@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Schmidt must have had an input into the 9. He coached Christie with the Blues, so maybe he swayed Foster 😬
Yes, it would be good to know how much influence the assistant coaches have in the final selections. Ryan has rolled the dice with the young props while Schmidt has gone all conservative.
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He missed a flight to Argentina mate! 😂
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Schmidt was always conservative with Irish selections. I really think not picking Roigard is a msssive mistake. Christie is the kind of halfback the Scottish would choose. Oh wait he is Scottish.
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@foobaNZ said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew that is baffling to me.
Any supposed superiority in Christie's defence is more than negated by Roigard's superiority elsewhere.
So again, I think it's baffling.
Not for me. I understand the thinking and decision
I also understand it's shit thinking and a shit decision..
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@Victor-Meldrew Well his laser like focus and determination was what set him apart.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Not for me. I understand the thinking and decision
Really though? What is the actual defensive edge he has, any idea? It's been said a lot, but there hasn't been any substance put to it.
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@Dan54 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@foobaNZ said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Like most, my first reaction is why TF Christie is there over Roigard. Absolutely baffling.
Looking at it overall, it's the best 23 aside from that one glaring selection (and Telea being unavailable).
My concern though is the starting props haven't had a lot of recent game time. They're our best, no doubt, but that is a worry.
I must admit I would go for Roigard, but I think (well and Foster says it) Christie is considered a better defender, which is hard to argue with or against as I haven't really taken a lot of notice, and with Irish you will see that Gibson-Parkes does cause problems for teams in and around breakdowns.
Christie will be 95% matching up against Murray, not JGP. They play quite differently.
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@Kirwan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Hilariously bad selections. Slow unproven winger, inexperienced props, the wrong 9 on the bench.
Man Foster is hard to like.
At least they didn’t pick Blackadder
I can accept the props, I can accept the winger (this is stupid) but the non selection of Roigard is on a par with the forever non selection of JB at 12.
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@Kirwan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Hilariously bad selections. Slow unproven winger, inexperienced props, the wrong 9 on the bench.
Man Foster is hard to like.
At least they didn’t pick Blackadder
They want to make it fair for the Irish I guess
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@Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Schmidt must have had an input into the 9. He coached Christie with the Blues, so maybe he swayed Foster 😬
Yes, it would be good to know how much influence the assistant coaches have in the final selections. Ryan has rolled the dice with the young props while Schmidt has gone all conservative.
Schmidt clearly has a lot of faith in him. Christie was on the bench for the first Irish test in '22 which we won 42-19. Foster was out ill for the 1st Test against Ireland in '22 and Schmidt was in charge which is why we won according to Fern logic,
Clearly Schmidt knows what he is doing when playing Ireland and Christie is the clear and obvious choice if we are to win.
Of course, Fern logic could be bollocks....
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@PecoTrain said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman not creating an account. Does he actually say that?
“We believe in what we stand for and that speaks volumes for the team that we make that sort of decision in this sort of week.”
If I want a role model in clean living and the highest standards of human behaviour, I'm not going to go looking in a fucking rugby team. Their job is to play rugby and win, and a lot of these guys seem to not even know the history they're fucking up - now they're patting themselves on the back for not prioritising winning? Because delivering a slap on the wrist to someone for having a couple of beers when they weren't meant to means more than that?
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@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Not many disappointed that Taukei'aho missed out then. I know his form has slipped a bit, but do you think he missed out because he’s the weaker line out thrower?
I’m still surprised he didn’t make the bench at least.
I'm fucked off about that, and the way he's been messed around last year and this year is really just shit poor management of the highest order.
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@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Not for me. I understand the thinking and decision
Really though? What is the actual defensive edge he has, any idea? It's been said a lot, but there hasn't been any substance put to it.
You'd probably have to ask Schmidt. Clearly sees something in Christie we don't see. Mind you, he was the one who coached the AB's to the last win over Ireland when Foster was ill and had Christie on the bench so he clearly knows what he is doing......
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