Ashes 2023

Cyclops

The only thing with the Barstow dismissal is that apparently Carey had noticed it happening a few times and decided to try for the run out. My personal take on the 'spirit of cricket' is that you'd give him a warning first then run him out the next time he did. Maybe Carey did that, I haven't read all the coverage because the English insane reaction just makes it painful to read about. It's a marginal call, and ranks a pretty long way down the list of 'shit things Australian keepers have done'.

Donsteppa

broughie

Watch the highlights and was a little confused about that catch not being a catch. He had control of the ball right before he hit the ground?

What I like about the Aussies is that they don't seem to have a fear of losing.

NTA

@broughie said in Ashes 2023:

Watch the highlights and was a little confused about that catch not being a catch. He had control of the ball right before he hit the ground?

Control of the ball and the body.

Virgil

@NTA

Can't believe im saying this alt text

but OZ definitely in the right here.
Bairstow, what a fucking muppet. Every age grade kid playing cricket knows STAY IN YOUR FUCKING CREASE!! until the ball is dead/no longer in play.
What the fuck was he thinking? and what the fuck did he think would happen.

Donsteppa

I was fine with the catch being not out. My understanding is you've never been able to put the ball downwards into the ground like that while still moving. Similar to if he'd managed to cross the boundary marker while still sliding/diving.

broughie

@NTA I think Ponting has it right in the time of possession. First part of link although you probably have already heard his comments.

barbarian

I woke up this morning, saw the headline about Bairstow and thought 'here we go'. Loaded up the clip expecting to see something heinous, unsportsmanlike, sneaky. Healy kicking off the bails type shit.

But what I saw was a batsman having a brain melt and wandering down the wicket without watching the ball. Clearly out.

But it's important to note the golden rule about the 'spirit of cricket'. It ONLY applies when in relation to a line-ball decision that goes against your team. So England are entirely fair to use it, as they have been entirely fair to ignore it on countless past occassions where the decision has gone their way.

They take a 2-0 moral lead and you just can't see Australia getting past them.

NTA

@barbarian said in Ashes 2023:

It ONLY applies when in relation to favouring Australia ~~a line-ball decision that goes against your team.~~

Fixed.

Donsteppa

was the take of the third umpire on his decision about Starc's catch, and was shown live last night. Video now seems to be geoblocked here, but for those in the UK or on VPN it may be of interest.

NTA

@Virgil said in Ashes 2023:

What the fuck was he thinking? and what the fuck did he think would happen.

I'm guessing he thought The Spirit Of Cricket would hold him lovingly in his arms and forgive all his trespasses.

NTA

@Cyclops said in Ashes 2023:

It's a marginal call, and ranks a pretty long way down the list of 'shit things Australian keepers have done'.

Over to you @MN5 ?

voodoo

Brain fart sure. In the rules, yep. Bit shit really though eh?

As a neutral, I can’t say I liked to see it. It’s very very different to someone falling out of their crease after trying to flick one down leg. Hell, even a mankad is arguably fairer given the batsman is trying to take advantage by going early.

This was a case of a ball being left, taken cleanly, no attempt at a run.

Just a bit shit IMO

dogmeat

@voodoo spot on.

Worse than a Mankad for me for the reason you state.

Made for an exciting end of the match though. Aussie much the better side overall but England still capable of nicking a result in one of the remaining matches.

Need to sort out their bowling though. Way too vanilla.

MN5

@NTA said in Ashes 2023:

@Cyclops said in Ashes 2023:

It's a marginal call, and ranks a pretty long way down the list of 'shit things Australian keepers have done'.

Over to you @MN5 ?

Donsteppa

Three months after the 2019 World Cup Final that I am never getting over, I sat through five days of the Barmy Army chanting 'Champions, Champions, ole ole ole' on a regular basis at Bay Oval. To the extent that the five year old even started randomly singing it afterwards.

So Ben Stokes can absolutely get in the bin with his post-match comments about ways he wouldn't like to win a game.

Duluth

@voodoo said in Ashes 2023:

This was a case of a ball being left, taken cleanly, no attempt at a run.

Yes a stumping.

The replay from behind was the best. The ball left Carey’s hands almost immediately as Bairstow was still grounded but leaning forward. Bairstow never even looked to see if the ball is taken cleanly. No one would complain if it was a spinner

Duluth

@Donsteppa said in Ashes 2023:

..and that wasn't the only time Bairstow attempted it in this Test

Which makes him even more 'dozy' to use Atherton's description

bayimports

@voodoo said in Ashes 2023:

Brain fart sure. In the rules, yep. Bit shit really though eh?

As a neutral, I can’t say I liked to see it. It’s very very different to someone falling out of their crease after trying to flick one down leg. Hell, even a mankad is arguably fairer given the batsman is trying to take advantage by going early.

This was a case of a ball being left, taken cleanly, no attempt at a run.

Just a bit shit IMO

I agree it is a bit shit from a personal perspective, but that been said it was completely legal and there is history of Baz (doing this attempting for NZ) and Eng team attempting and making dismissals like this in their history. Makes it a bit more amusing..given his stance

Donsteppa

@bayimports also to add to BMac's no beers amusement...

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