Reshuffling the All Blacks backline
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<p>I love the insightful analysis you provide on a regular basis MN5.</p>
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<p>I haven't watched much Super Rugby <strike>this</strike> any year so can't offer a great deal. Standard.</p>
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<p>Is Ngatai a bit of a Kahui type player ie hard runner and tackler with a bit of a footballing brain to boot ? haven't seen much of him.</p> -
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<p>Is Ngatai a bit of a Kahui type player ie hard runner and tackler with a bit of a footballing brain to boot ? haven't seen much of him.</p>
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<p>Well, for what it's worth, Rennie on the radio this morning said he runs their attack.</p> -
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<p>Nor me really, but pickings are a bit slim. As a Ta$man fan, James Lowe still seems a bit green for my liking - a bit suspect in his decision-making, though maybe playing for the Chiefs and Ta$man he's been encouraged to have a go. Who else? Proctor? FABJM? Sam McNicol? Tevita Li?</p>
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Of those you mentioned, Li and Lowe would be my preference. Li is obviously an excitement machine with ball in hand, and Lowe has the best kicking game of any winger in NZ.</p> -
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<p>Of those you mentioned, Li and Lowe would be my preference. Li is obviously an excitement machine with ball in hand, and Lowe has the best kicking game of any winger in NZ.</p>
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<p>I think at present, Osborne is superior to both of those guys.</p>
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<p>Lowe has some good games, but also some shockers (Dunedin last year) </p>
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<p>As far as I can see, Li has only one positive attribute - Pace.</p> -
<p>hopefully this is Li's breakout year at big boy level...he has shown glimpses at ITM and Super rugby after being an age grade star.</p>
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<p>I think at present, Osborne is superior to both of those guys.</p>
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<p>Lowe has some good games, but also some shockers (Dunedin last year) </p>
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<p>As far as I can see, Li has only one positive attribute - Pace.</p>
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<p>Agree with the last comment.</p>
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<p>where's the cliche thread? Because one of my favourites has always been "you can't coach pace".</p>
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<p>Be nice to have some mad wheels in the team again. Have we had any since Joey Roks and Dougie were our boys?</p>
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<p>Just to be that guy, i don't think Barrett is a great starting fullback either. I like him as the impact player he has become, but i find his positional play and all-round fullback skills to be a bit south of what you expect from an AB 15. </p> -
<p>Nobody notice the link between Dagg and Savea's form <strike>dropping off</strike> turning to shit?</p>
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<p>Same happened when DC got injured all the time...</p>
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<p>Once again McCaw shows the way.....</p>
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<p>where's the cliche thread? Because one of my favourites has always been "you can't coach pace".</p>
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<p>Be nice to have some mad wheels in the team again. Have we had any since Joey Roks and Dougie were our boys?</p>
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<p>Just to be that guy, i don't think Barrett is a great starting fullback either. I like him as the impact player he has become, but i find his positional play and all-round fullback skills to be a bit south of what you expect from an AB 15. </p>
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<p>It's a dumb cliché because pace can be coached, well, trained is a better word.</p>
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<p>But good point none of Savea, Kahui, Jane, Dagg, Smith etc strike me as having the kind of pace of those guys mentioned above. I think H Gear did in his brief career, Naholo probably does but is it racist for me to think that just because he is Fijian ?</p> -
<p>9. A. Smith</p>
<p>10. L. Sopoaga</p>
<p>11. G. Moala</p>
<p>12. M. Fekitoa</p>
<p>13. R. Crotty</p>
<p>14. B. Smith</p>
<p>15. B. Barrett</p>
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<p>21. T. Kerr-Barlow</p>
<p>22. A. Cruden</p>
<p>23. C. Ngatai</p> -
<p>sickening bias</p>
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<p>I think we are likely to see this..</p>
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<p>9. A. Smith<br>
10. A. Cruden<br>
11. J Savea<br>
12. C. Ngatai <br>
13. M. Fekitoa<br>
14. W. Naholo<br>
15. B. Smith<br><br>
21. T. Kerr-Barlow<br>
22. R. Crotty<br>
23. B. Barrett</p>
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<p>With extra squad members</p>
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<p>L. Sopoaga</p>
<p>D. McKenzie</p>
<p>G Moala</p>
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<p>So we're going to move the best Fullback in the world from the team pattern of the best team in the world because?</p>
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<p>Oh yeah because we don't have another winger in all of NZ</p>
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<p>strewth</p>
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<p>Should we just bring back Caleb Ralph then</p>
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<p>Rather an underdone wing than an underdone fullback</p> -
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<p>I think we are likely to see this..</p>
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<p>9. A. Smith<br>
10. A. Cruden<br>
11. J Savea<br>
12. C. Ngatai <br>
13. M. Fekitoa<br>
14. W. Naholo<br>
15. B. Smith<br><br>
21. T. Kerr-Barlow<br>
22. R. Crotty<br>
23. B. Barrett</p>
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<p>With extra squad members</p>
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<p>L. Sopoaga</p>
<p>D. McKenzie</p>
<p>G Moala</p>
<p>TJP</p>
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<p>Yeah maybe swap Crotty for Charlie because the Zoo seem to place a lot of emphasis on experience and leadership.</p>
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<p>Crotty has been in the AB environment a fair bit and another "experienced" voice in the backline would be a sound move.</p>
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<p>So we're going to <strong>move the best Fullback in the world from the team pattern of the best team in the world because</strong>?</p>
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<p>Oh yeah because we don't have another winger in all of NZ</p>
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<p>strewth</p>
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<p>Should we just bring back Caleb Ralph then</p>
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<p>Rather an underdone wing than an underdone fullback</p>
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<p>The ABs have basically been doing that for the last 12-18 months....</p> -
<p>obvious troll is obvious</p>
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<p>This "Crotty has more leadership" is some fucking bullshit you racist fucks. It's pretty clear from watching the Chiefs Ngatai has a huge say in how their game plays, and is often the one settling it down when a few of our more excitable players take it too far. While i expect Crotty to also be in the, i don't see him taking in too much more collateral than Ngatai given their last 18 months of rugby. </p> -
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<p>The ABs have basically been doing that for the last 12-18 months....</p>
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<p>No they haven't</p>
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<p>Ben Smith has been the starting 15. Sure tactical changes later in the game have been applied but not to the 1stXV</p> -
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<p>obvious troll is obvious</p>
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<p>This "Crotty has more leadership" is some fucking bullshit you racist fucks. It's pretty clear from watching the Chiefs Ngatai has a huge say in how their game plays, and is often the one settling it down when a few of our more excitable players take it too far. While i expect Crotty to also be in the, i don't see him taking in too much more collateral than Ngatai given their last 18 months of rugby. </p>
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<p>Fair enough but Crotty has far more AB experience than Ngatai- it's not unreasonable to assume that this could be a deciding factor when selecting the run on team for the first game of a season</p> -
I'm going to throw Macilai 's name into the hat. I think he has looked very good so far this season<br><br><br>
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