All Blacks 2023
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@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Frank said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@gt12 said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
How in the fuck do we need video refs if we are going to have absolute howlers still go missing. Get rid of them.
Beauden Barrett should not be near an AB 10 Jersey. The older he gets, the worse he gets.
Just signed a long term contract with the ABs to "close out" his career in NZ
One of my favourite ever allblacks.
Never been the same since he moved to Japan and/or got married.
He looks gun shy.
His drop off in try scoring is unfathomable.
Those concussions may have rocked his confidence to go into contact.
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@Chris said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Frank said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@gt12 said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
How in the fuck do we need video refs if we are going to have absolute howlers still go missing. Get rid of them.
Beauden Barrett should not be near an AB 10 Jersey. The older he gets, the worse he gets.
Just signed a long term contract with the ABs to "close out" his career in NZ
One of my favourite ever allblacks.
Never been the same since he moved to Japan and/or got married.
He looks gun shy.
His drop off in try scoring is unfathomable.
Those concussions may have rocked his confidence to go into contact.
Even his try in the Irish series was a ricochet off a few legs from a yard out that nutmegged a defender.
He has offered nothing in ball in hand that a Stevenson, DMAC , Will Jordan wouldn't offer from fullback.
Fly half (reluctantly) or not on the pitch for mine....
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@Chris said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Frank said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@gt12 said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
How in the fuck do we need video refs if we are going to have absolute howlers still go missing. Get rid of them.
Beauden Barrett should not be near an AB 10 Jersey. The older he gets, the worse he gets.
Just signed a long term contract with the ABs to "close out" his career in NZ
One of my favourite ever allblacks.
Never been the same since he moved to Japan and/or got married.
He looks gun shy.
His drop off in try scoring is unfathomable.
Those concussions may have rocked his confidence to go into contact.
Maybe so. Im so disappointed with him. I don't even notice him on the pitch any more at club or country level.
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@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Chris said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Frank said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@gt12 said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
How in the fuck do we need video refs if we are going to have absolute howlers still go missing. Get rid of them.
Beauden Barrett should not be near an AB 10 Jersey. The older he gets, the worse he gets.
Just signed a long term contract with the ABs to "close out" his career in NZ
One of my favourite ever allblacks.
Never been the same since he moved to Japan and/or got married.
He looks gun shy.
His drop off in try scoring is unfathomable.
Those concussions may have rocked his confidence to go into contact.
Maybe so. Im so disappointed with him. I don't even notice him on the pitch any more at club or country level.
Yep shadow of his former self,I would not pick him in the AB's at all now.
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@Chris look at Sexton aged 37. Into everything on D and attack.
I actually never really rated Sexton, but you notice him on the pitch.
Beaudy is coming off the pitch spotlessly clean. Catches a few kicks. Boots them back.
Kicks a few aimless cross field balls. Thats it now.
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@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Chris look at Sexton aged 37. Into everything on D and attack.
I actually never really rated Sexton, but you notice him on the pitch.
Beaudy is coming off the pitch spotlessly clean. Catches a few kicks. Boots them back.
Kicks a few aimless cross field balls. Thats it now.
Mo'unga aint far behind. Another behind the gainline merchant these days.
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@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Chris look at Sexton aged 37. Into everything on D and attack.
I actually never really rated Sexton, but you notice him on the pitch.
Beaudy is coming off the pitch spotlessly clean. Catches a few kicks. Boots them back.
Kicks a few aimless cross field balls. Thats it now.
Mo'unga aint far behind. Another behind the gainline merchant these days.
D MAc was shit last game
kicking was shit wayward including missing touch badly from a penalty.
Dropped the ball cold 3 times on attack.
,Major problem who steers the ship at the WC. -
@Chris said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Chris look at Sexton aged 37. Into everything on D and attack.
I actually never really rated Sexton, but you notice him on the pitch.
Beaudy is coming off the pitch spotlessly clean. Catches a few kicks. Boots them back.
Kicks a few aimless cross field balls. Thats it now.
Mo'unga aint far behind. Another behind the gainline merchant these days.
D MAc was shit last game
kicking was shit wayward including missing touch badly from a penalty.
Dropped the ball cold 3 times on attack.
,Major problem who steers the ship at the WC.Finn Russell gets plenty of welly (today included) as being a flat track show pony.
Our 3 are no better at the moment.
Sexton is black and blue every week and comes out the next week and backs it up.
Our lads are cheque cashers between sabbaticals. Their Allblack careers are like sabbaticals within sabbaticals.
Ive never known a time like it to have no affinity with an allblack fly half.
The posiiton has been deified for so long.
We have one lad just back from Japan and the other 2 are on their way there.
And before anyone gives me the "but Carter".......DC earned it.
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@Chris said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Chris look at Sexton aged 37. Into everything on D and attack.
I actually never really rated Sexton, but you notice him on the pitch.
Beaudy is coming off the pitch spotlessly clean. Catches a few kicks. Boots them back.
Kicks a few aimless cross field balls. Thats it now.
Mo'unga aint far behind. Another behind the gainline merchant these days.
D MAc was shit last game
kicking was shit wayward including missing touch badly from a penalty.
Dropped the ball cold 3 times on attack.
,Major problem who steers the ship at the WC.Perhaps if the Blues played their best 10 at 10 in Perofeta the ABs might have another option.
I'm more worried about how DMac goes in big Super games - being hot and cold vs Highlanders means little.
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@KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
I'm more worried about how DMac goes in big Super games
He has some average games at first in last years NPC. Can't remember if it was any big games though. Whether he loses focus against weaker teams or if he is just inconsistent regardless of the team
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@KiwiMurph guess at least he is showing more 'hot' than the other options that are mostly cold?
We need one of RM, BB or DM to really step up and own the 10 jersey, we are already heading into the most competitive RWC ever, and without a 10 that can control things for us, we are done.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@KiwiMurph guess at least he is showing more 'hot' than the other options that are mostly cold?
We need one of RM, BB or DM to really step up and own the 10 jersey, we are already heading into the most competitive RWC ever, and without a 10 that can control things for us, we are done.
If DMac continues his current trajectory is Foster going to have the stones to give him a shot at steering the cutter?
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Steve said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Chris look at Sexton aged 37. Into everything on D and attack.
I actually never really rated Sexton, but you notice him on the pitch.
Beaudy is coming off the pitch spotlessly clean. Catches a few kicks. Boots them back.
Kicks a few aimless cross field balls. Thats it now.
Mo'unga aint far behind. Another behind the gainline merchant these days.
D MAc was shit last game
kicking was shit wayward including missing touch badly from a penalty.
Dropped the ball cold 3 times on attack.
,Major problem who steers the ship at the WC.Perhaps if the Blues played their best 10 at 10 in Perofeta the ABs might have another option.
I'm more worried about how DMac goes in big Super games - being hot and cold vs Highlanders means little.
Yep totally agree the Blues have it the wrong way around.
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So who is responsible for dropping the ball here NZR,Foster as AB Hc who has a part in development ideas etc for the elite young players coming though or all of them.
It seems they have sat back on their hands not looking to keep moving to stay ahead, and let other countries fly right past them in development of the next few tiers of players coming though.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris
It has to start with Matt Sexton (NZR High Performance Player Development Manager) and the Super Rugby HP managers/coaches. As the article says NZR has had different priorities for the NZ U20s for over a decade.I don't think we can blame the Super Rugby HP managers/Coaches they have priorities to recruit and develop for their clubs not directly for the AB's, should that gap from Super to international for young players be taken up by a coaching HP group associated with the AB's like a bridging coaching system.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
So who is responsible for dropping the ball here NZR,Foster as AB Hc who has a part in development ideas etc for the elite young players coming though or all of them.
It seems they have sat back on their hands not looking to keep moving to stay ahead, and let other countries fly right past them in development of the next few tiers of players coming though.
my feeling as NZR has fundamentally fuck up rugby in NZ, putting all the focus on the AB's and deciding the best players can just be identified in isolation....rather than focusing on just a stable and engaging domestic/super comp and understanding a great comp will just develop great players
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
So who is responsible for dropping the ball here NZR,Foster as AB Hc who has a part in development ideas etc for the elite young players coming though or all of them.
It seems they have sat back on their hands not looking to keep moving to stay ahead, and let other countries fly right past them in development of the next few tiers of players coming though.
my feeling as NZR has fundamentally fuck up rugby in NZ, putting all the focus on the AB's and deciding the best players can just be identified in isolation....rather than focusing on just a stable and engaging domestic/super comp and understanding a great comp will just develop great players
I actually think that they do the latter already and that is part of the problem. They leave the cream to rise to the top then get players up to test match speed through AB camps.
Others have pointed out that development from NZR does exist but I question whether it is simply generalised fast tracking. Getting players aligned around training discipline, nutrition, professional standards, language and terminology etc. Of course there will be some specific skills training such as scrum coaching, technique to keep within laws etc but I suggest that it needs to go further.
We can all see that our on field generals in the first five position don't play a style that works at test level. Why are we developing those skills and thinking? Who is doing tactical awareness, kicking strategy etc at an academy level? -
@Crucial which latter part? you think NZR is focusing on a good domestic comps?
