All Blacks 2023
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@Stargazer At least he's available for the QF.
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Independent disciplinary committee decision: Ethan de Groot (New Zealand) | World Rugby
New Zealand’s Ethan de Groot attended an independent Disciplinary Committee hearing for an offence contrary to contrary to Law 9.16 (“a player must not charge … an opponent without grasping the player”) as a result of a review by the Foul Play Review Official in New Zealand’s Rugby World Cup 2023...
The player admitted that he had committed an act of foul play, but maintained that the red card threshold had not been met and therefore challenged the Foul Play Review Official’s decision that the tackle was “always illegal”.
Having considered all the available evidence, including the application of World Rugby’s Head Contact Process, the submissions by the player and his representative, and all available camera angles and technology, the independent Committee determined that:
i) an act of foul play had occurred;
ii) the player had the opportunity to put himself in a position to complete a legal tackle;
iii) the player was in a dynamic tackling position and, as admitted by the player, he was not sufficiently bent at the waist;
iv) that head contact had occurred and the degree of danger was high;
v) the FPRO’s decision that the tackle was “always illegal” was correct, because of the lack of an attempt to wrap, and therefore mitigation could not be applied in this incident to bring the sanction down from a red card.
On that basis and in considering the sanction, the independent Committee applied World Rugby’s mandatory minimum mid-range entry point for foul play resulting in head contact (six matches). Taking all considerations into account, including acceptance of an element of foul play and an excellent disciplinary record, the independent Committee determined a maximum mitigation of 50 per cent, resulting in a final sanction of three matches to be applied as follows:
New Zealand v Italy, 29 September
New Zealand v Uruguay 5 October
The player will be free to play in the Rugby World Cup 2023 quarter-final (if New Zealand qualify) subject to successful completion of the Coaching Intervention Programme*
*The player intends to apply to take part in the World Rugby Coaching Intervention Programme to substitute the final match of the sanction for a coaching intervention aimed at modifying specific techniques and technical issues that contributed to the foul play subject to successful completion. Further information can be found here.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer At least he's available for the QF.
Is that a good thing? So far in about 60mins of playing time he's contributed something like 5 knock-ons, 27 missed tackles, 43 scrum penalties and a red card.
Oh and a try
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@voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer At least he's available for the QF.
Is that a good thing? So far in about 60mins of playing time he's contributed something like 5 knock-ons, 27 missed tackles, 43 scrum penalties and a red card.
Oh and a try
The way people are turning on de Groot to me is bizarre. The All Blacks are noticeably better when he and Lomax are on the field. Didn't have his best game vs France obviously, but it got way overblown. Wasn't where we lost the game.
Was his tackle vs Namibia on the poor side? Of course it was. But it also isn't the thuggery shoulder charge some people are trying to make it out to be. He is far better than Ofa, and we should 100% rush him straight back in come the quarters.
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I like the look of Blackadder as a bench option that covers all three positions, and will bring huge energy when he gets on the paddock. I think that'd add a lot to the team.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
10,000! To an open training!
Yeah I think Ireland picked up 12k earlier, seems pretty good support in France, wish I was there
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Foster 'surprised' by 3 weeks down to 2 decision. Shows what a fucking numpty he is, considering every man and his dog had that as the outcome days ago.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:
I like the look of Blackadder as a bench option that covers all three positions, and will bring huge energy when he gets on the paddock. I think that'd add a lot to the team.
It’s a shame he has to ruin the myth by actually playing really
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2023:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:
I like the look of Blackadder as a bench option that covers all three positions, and will bring huge energy when he gets on the paddock. I think that'd add a lot to the team.
It’s a shame he has to ruin the myth by actually playing really
Sub Editor: We have two versions ready to go. If he wins, “Kiwi loose forward beats the world.”
News writer: And if he loses?
Sub Editor: “Crusaders injury magnet fails in
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2023:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:
I like the look of Blackadder as a bench option that covers all three positions, and will bring huge energy when he gets on the paddock. I think that'd add a lot to the team.
It’s a shame he has to ruin the myth by actually playing really
Sub Editor: We have two versions ready to go. If he wins, “Kiwi loose forward beats the world.”
News writer: And if he loses?
Sub Editor: “Crusaders injury magnet fails in
MexicoFrance.”either way, the world will react..
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They lost to Wales at home last year as well
