All Blacks 2023
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
How did the All Blacks go from so good and so widely respected in 2015 to being a bit of a laughing stock at the moment?
Mrs TR (English and only interest in rugby was me when we met) wasnt home when the game finished and then got home and just asked me what I thought of the match...then said this is getting embarrassing isnt it?
Think that about sums it up.
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Other teams apart perhaps from England and Australia have improved but the gap is even bigger than that. Our players may be older and with less mongrel or street smarts or sheer talent but I don't think by much. It almost certainly must be the coaching. I really can't see why they prefer Christie, their choice of 6, their starting hooker (but Codie had been playing better until SA) and although he showed glimpses, BB. No out of jail speed left and core skills apart from tackling, as in kicking and vision have stalled or worsened.
Stevenson may lose you games at 15 but he can also win them. I'd add Jordan to that normally but also this year something has changed with him-confidence?Actually with Va'a at 6, this should our strongest lineout team/combo, was it?
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(but Codie had been playing better until SA)
He didn’t play against SA Coles did,ST was on the bench.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
(but Codie had been playing better until SA)
He didn’t play against SA Coles did,ST was on the bench.
Yeh but I meant recently. Sorry for sloppy writing.
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@taniwharugby We had three years to prepare for last night. We faced exactly what I expected: a passionate, brutal French side led by arguably the greatest half back to play the game in front of a patriotic, vocal French crowd.
The Second Half from the All Blacks was a shambles. Under pressure they folded.
If I had to sum it in one word. Embarrassing.
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Ok gotcha.
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@sparky not sure it was even thier pressure that caused the capitulation, was a combination of dumb decisions and equally poor execution of basic skills that put the pressure on themselves
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I think there may have been a game in the Foster era where we showed we could play different styles/tactics but I can't think of one recently, France showed how it can be done.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
@taniwharugby We had three years to prepare for last night. We faced exactly what I expected: a passionate, brutal French side led by arguably the greatest half back to play the game in front of a patriotic, vocal French crowd.
The Second Half from the All Blacks was a shambles. Under pressure they folded.
If I had to sum it in one word. Embarrassing.
It’s Ok Fozzie says ,we are learning and he is quite happy we’re we are,he would not change a thing.
Fuck how did we ever get to this point.
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@taniwharugby I think the occasion and the crowd got to the ABs a bit.
But I see what you mean. France didn’t have to do much in that game. They looked very solid, but not necessarily world beaters. Terrible decision-making and baffling execution meant the ABs unraveled last night.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
How did the All Blacks go from so good and so widely respected in 2015 to being a bit of a laughing stock at the moment?
Bad tactics by Foster.
A culture of complacency within the All Blacks.
Failure to adapt to changing tactics by other international sides.
Not monitoring developments in the international game closely enough.
A failure for individual players to go away and work on obvious weaknesses in their game.
Devaluing possession and the kicking game.
A generation of players that is much less gifted than those that emerged in the 2000s.
Low crowds for domestic NZ Rugby.
Fewer people playing club rugby in NZ.
A board who were content to wallow in past glories rather than plan for the future.Anything I’ve missed?
I blame the catering at wellington stadium for this. Overpriced shit food and beer is not enticing.
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assuming it is true, not that it matters with 3-5 games left in charge, but he should really be asked to explain why he is replacing a wing with a loose forward...
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@African-Monkey no, you couldn’t
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
On his way to France
Who is coming home?
Hopefully Fozzie
