All Blacks 2023
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I think it sounds reasonable to ask if NZR are keeping abreast of successful methods overseas and in other sports.
I'd say women's rugby here has been a success (even if they didn't win the final).
But I don't know how successful NZR are in training and retaining and upskilling NZ rugby coaches. I'd suggest that is worth a look at. -
@nostrildamus IIRC there was always an article about Henry or Hansen when they would spend time with nrl and nfl teams (or thier players/coaches visited the ABs) so either the media lost interest in what stuff Fozzie is doing, or he hasn't been looking at things outside rugby as his predecessors did (not that I can remember anyway)
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@nostrildamus IIRC there was always an article about Henry or Hansen when they would spend time with nrl and nfl teams (or thier players/coaches visited the ABs) so either the media lost interest in what stuff Fozzie is doing, or he hasn't been looking at things outside rugby as his predecessors did (not that I can remember anyway)
Yes I don't know either. I'm not trying to put the boot into Foster or the NZR here I just wonder what could be improved.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
So who is responsible for dropping the ball here NZR,Foster as AB Hc who has a part in development ideas etc for the elite young players coming though or all of them.
It seems they have sat back on their hands not looking to keep moving to stay ahead, and let other countries fly right past them in development of the next few tiers of players coming though.
I don't think blaming everything on Foster and/or the people who appointed him helps us much, if at all. Problems almost certainly run way deeper than that and probably go back for years with a complacency that NZ rugby and rugby players are somehow inherently superior to anyone else.
NZ rugby really needs to take a good hard look at itself and plot a way forward.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
NZ rugby really needs to take a good hard look at itself and plot a way forward.
100% agree with this.
So what have you fellas done about it? Have you actually put forward suggestions in the NZR review? Or got suggestions who or what should be done? I will add I didn't as I haven't got great ideas what should be done.
I not disagreeing that changes could be made, bloody easy for us to say it without having answers isn't it?Sadly, I left the business turnaround consultancy business a few years back....
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Former All Black names his three NZ halfbacks for RWC
With this year’s Rugby World Cup less than six months away, former All Black Steve Devine has named the three New Zealand halfbacks who should go to France.
He picks Smith, Christie, and Weber, which is probably who they'll take.
Smith is obviously number one, and Weber is the only other halfback I'd trust to start a game. Christie has been good off the bench, but I wouldn't want him on for much more than 30 minutes. Probably down to Christie and Roigard for that third spot, or will Ratima force his way in? I haven't seen enough of Roigard yet to make a judgement of him.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim I'll be surprised if foster drops Christie. Think Roigard is in a battle with Weber, probably come down to who doesn't fade.
Roigard is the bold choice, Webber has runs on the board in the black jersey
What advantage does Christie have over Weber?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim I'll be surprised if foster drops Christie. Think Roigard is in a battle with Weber, probably come down to who doesn't fade.
Roigard is the bold choice, Webber has runs on the board in the black jersey
What advantage does Christie have over Weber?
Christie doesn't really excite me
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim I'll be surprised if foster drops Christie. Think Roigard is in a battle with Weber, probably come down to who doesn't fade.
Roigard is the bold choice, Webber has runs on the board in the black jersey
What advantage does Christie have over Weber?
Christie doesn't really excite me
The few times I really noticed Christie he looked competent but more recently he seemed to fall apart a little under stress, and Weber impresses me sometimes with his speed and pass.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim I'll be surprised if foster drops Christie. Think Roigard is in a battle with Weber, probably come down to who doesn't fade.
Roigard is the bold choice, Webber has runs on the board in the black jersey
Roigard looks very very good so far. I will watch his defense as someone claimed it's a weakness. But if he keeps on improving like he has this year or plays close to the last game he should go. Subject to defense and consistency
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@Crucial tough question, even if fit come international season do you pick him without a super season under his belt? history enough? was already in and out of the squad, hude chance for Tela
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim I'll be surprised if foster drops Christie. Think Roigard is in a battle with Weber, probably come down to who doesn't fade.
Roigard is the bold choice, Webber has runs on the board in the black jersey
What advantage does Christie have over Weber?
Alphabetical?
I'd love for them to pull in a newbie (Roigard or Ratima) and then only take one of Weber or Christie (Weber is my choice presently)
Smith is #1 but hopefully he has.been keeping his powder dry with his lack of running, cos we need a 9 who is more than a pass or kick...
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@taniwharugby other side of the coin...we have to put up with people giving us shit about poaching players....
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim I'll be surprised if foster drops Christie. Think Roigard is in a battle with Weber, probably come down to who doesn't fade.
Roigard is the bold choice, Webber has runs on the board in the black jersey
What advantage does Christie have over Weber?
Alphabetical?
I'd love for them to pull in a newbie (Roigard or Ratima) and then only take one of Weber or Christie (Weber is my choice presently)
Smith is #1 but hopefully he has.been keeping his powder dry with his lack of running, cos we need a 9 who is more than a pass or kick...
Combinations will come into it as well.
If Weber and DMac form a good book then that could be a factor.
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