All Blacks v England
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v England:
I remember Fox drilling kicks into the corners
Why not?I remember forwards with no idea of ball skills. Let's try that too.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v England:
@Bones And if Andrew Mehrtens had hit that drop kick, he'd have won the World Cup with a team that had been poisoned.
Drop kicks are dumb though.......
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@sparky said in All Blacks v England:
@canefan So does Cardiff 1905. Losing always does.
We won. Deans scored.
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I reckon the ABs had a word to Raynal before the match about England tactics. Hence those first couple of penalties. But really he didn't like it so decided if they're going to "lecture" him on those, he's going to go hard line on them for anything slight.
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Watching it back. Discipline cost us that one. Fix that and we'd have had a big win. England were outstanding in those last ten minutes. Crowd lifted them. Two of our finishers (Perenera and Laulala) should be nowhere near the squad next year. Whitelock and Savea ran out of legs at the end there too.
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Now that I have calmed down a bit, I think there are some real good signs with that NZ team.
Our forwards are going well and structure seems to be good. We might go OK next year so long as we keep improving.
I am fan of Scott Barrett at 6. I think with Savea at 8 and hopefully Papallii at 7, he is the man to play 6.
Rayna is not a good referee.
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@Damo said in All Blacks v England:
Now that I have calmed down a bit, I think there are some real good signs with that NZ team.
Our forwards are going well and structure seems to be good. We might go OK next year so long as we keep improving.
I am fan of Scott Barrett at 6. I think with Savea at 8 and hopefully Papallii at 7, he is the man to play 6.
Rayna is not a good referee.
Perenera won us the game last week IMHO. Totally agree with the rest.
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Well, that was one of the greatest comebacks of all time from England. Three tries in the last 10 minutes against a Tier 1 team is an incredible effort, massive kudos to them. Kicking the ball out for the draw though is something I cannot wrap my head around, they were carving us to shreds and would have got the ball over halfway pretty quickly I reckon, then it's all on for a penalty. @Catogrande as our English representative on here, I'm interested to hear your take on that - are the fans up there fine with that? I would have torn my hair out at that after such an amazing comeback.
We came out of the blocks fast in the first half and really had them under the pump. That was the best start we've made in a long time against a top side, our forwards were smacking them around and our backs looked very dangerous. That was a joy to watch. Dalton was awesome and Clarke had his best game in a long time.
Then in the second half England got an early penalty and really dominated the rest of that half. We had moments where we could have arrested momentum but some costly errors like missing touch just handed it back to them. We just can't afford mistakes like that when we are under the pump. Even more so in the final game of long hard season where we were fading.
I can't really single any one player out though. The BB droppie got us a 19 point lead with 10 to go, that should be more than enough. The BB YC was harsh as well, he got back to his feet and was competing for the ball - yeah he didn't really give the English play time to release but at the same time the defending player gets awarded the penalty more often than not there. Once it was a penalty it had to be a card though.
Most players had good moments but also made errors. Mo'unga ran with the ball well but also made costly errors. Codie was good around the park but mucked up some crucial lineouts. Rieko was a threat all game but his hands let him down a few times, and the neck roll to rub out his try wasn't smart play.
Overall though I'm happy with how the EOYT has played out. We've always struggled to win big at the end of our season, and 25-6 at 70 minutes against England in the final game is friggen awesome. We'll win from that position in a WC basically every time. We've come a long way since the Irish series where we now know 90% of what our top side is, we have some genuinely world class players in our pack and in the backline, and plenty of experience to boot. I'm excited about next year and our chances at the RWC once our top side has had more time together.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v England:
Watching it back. Discipline cost us that one. Fix that and we'd have had a big win. England were outstanding in those last ten minutes. Crowd lifted them. Two of our finishers (Perenera and Laulala) should be nowhere near the squad next year. Whitelock and Savea ran out of legs at the end there too.
6 days ago he was the Messiah.
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Thought our defence was fantastic until down to 14 men. Well done Scott McLeod. Zero missed tackles in first half? Not sold on Rieko as a centre though. Communications against dummy runners just not working.
For me the big disappointment was Richie Mounga. Several critical errors and a bunch of risky plays. And his kicking depth was all over the place.
Questions also about the captaincy. Some tactics questionable and poor choice of who was kicking at times and where they were aiming.
Papalii and Retallick had enormous games in getting us forward ascendancy.
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@cgrant said in All Blacks v England:
England were fresher during the last ten minutes because they had a seven day turnaround, which was not the case for the All Blacks. The latter had a hard battle against Scotland just six days before while England were free flowing against Japan.
I love trying to find straws to grab, and that's a @booboo level clutch.
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After watching again accuracy in 2nd half was an issue lineout:line kicks missing touch etc, little errors here and there which meant we cldnt build pressure like we cld in 1st half.
Bigger issue which in last 20 got England in was inability to recover kicks, and not so much back three fault but we lacked urgency to get back and contest for 50/50 balls with working hard off ball which then put our d under pressure. The little things. -
