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@No-Quarter and then seeing when the keeper stands
I've told the story before f even a guy of Doull's pace working me over (and chipping me)
I was shit bat though -
@mariner4life said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@No-Quarter and then seeing when the keeper stands
I've told the story before f even a guy of Doull's pace working me over (and chipping me)
I was shit bat thoughI was awesome, I was basically Lance Cairns/Tim Southee just without the bowling ability.
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@mariner4life said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@No-Quarter and then seeing when the keeper stands
I've told the story before f even a guy of Doull's pace working me over (and chipping me)
I was shit bat thoughHaha yeah, we watch bowlers like Southee throwing them down at 130ks and call him medium pace, but when you face 130ks it feels more like 150, it's on you in a flash. I've never faced anything 140k+, I actually don't know how professional batsmen even hit the ball.
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@No-Quarter said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@mariner4life said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@No-Quarter and then seeing when the keeper stands
I've told the story before f even a guy of Doull's pace working me over (and chipping me)
I was shit bat thoughHaha yeah, we watch bowlers like Southee throwing them down at 130ks and call him medium pace, but when you face 130ks it feels more like 150, it's on you in a flash. I've never faced anything 140k+, I actually don't know how professional batsmen even hit the ball.
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Anyone know much about Je ry Shipley? I see he has been named in the one day squad and is being touted as an all rounder. I am hoping he is not another bits and pieces player, ok at both but not outstanding in either.
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@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
Anyone know much about Je ry Shipley? I see he has been named in the one day squad and is being touted as an all rounder. I am hoping he is not another bits and pieces player, ok at both but not outstanding in either.
27 and 25 for bowling and batting respectively. That’s very promising.
We have an appalling legacy of bits and pieces players and should hang our collective heads in shame.
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@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
Anyone know much about Je ry Shipley? I see he has been named in the one day squad and is being touted as an all rounder. I am hoping he is not another bits and pieces player, ok at both but not outstanding in either.
26 year old 1.95cm all rounder plays in the Country comp in Canterbury.
Decent pace and sharp bounce being a tall bowler.
Good bat.A few from the Shipley family have been decent cricketers and rugby players.
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@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
Anyone know much about Je ry Shipley? I see he has been named in the one day squad and is being touted as an all rounder. I am hoping he is not another bits and pieces player, ok at both but not outstanding in either.
26 year old 1.95cm all rounder plays in the Country comp in Canterbury.
Decent pace and sharp bounce being a tall bowler.
Good bat.A few from the Shipley family have been decent cricketers and rugby players.
Would he be good enough to hold a spot in either discipline if he wasn't an 'all-rounder'?
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@MN5 said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
Anyone know much about Je ry Shipley? I see he has been named in the one day squad and is being touted as an all rounder. I am hoping he is not another bits and pieces player, ok at both but not outstanding in either.
27 and 25 for bowling and batting respectively. That’s very promising.
We have an appalling legacy of bits and pieces players and should hang our collective heads in shame.
Bit disappointed in those figures to be honest.
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@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@MN5 said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
Anyone know much about Je ry Shipley? I see he has been named in the one day squad and is being touted as an all rounder. I am hoping he is not another bits and pieces player, ok at both but not outstanding in either.
27 and 25 for bowling and batting respectively. That’s very promising.
We have an appalling legacy of bits and pieces players and should hang our collective heads in shame.
Bit disappointed in those figures to be honest.
Don’t look at his limited overs stats then.
Early days but he does scream “bowler who can bat a bit”
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@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
Anyone know much about Je ry Shipley? I see he has been named in the one day squad and is being touted as an all rounder. I am hoping he is not another bits and pieces player, ok at both but not outstanding in either.
26 year old 1.95cm all rounder plays in the Country comp in Canterbury.
Decent pace and sharp bounce being a tall bowler.
Good bat.A few from the Shipley family have been decent cricketers and rugby players.
Would he be good enough to hold a spot in either discipline if he wasn't an 'all-rounder'?
As a bowler yes, below from an article on him
He was the leading wicket-taker in last season’s domestic Super Smash T20 competition (18 at 14.11) and is currently tied for second on the Ford Trophy one-day wicket-taking table (12 at 11.91), boosted by his hat-trick against Wellington last month..
I think he has really come on in the last 18 months so the stats are moving in the right direction.
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@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
Anyone know much about Je ry Shipley? I see he has been named in the one day squad and is being touted as an all rounder. I am hoping he is not another bits and pieces player, ok at both but not outstanding in either.
26 year old 1.95cm all rounder plays in the Country comp in Canterbury.
Decent pace and sharp bounce being a tall bowler.
Good bat.A few from the Shipley family have been decent cricketers and rugby players.
Would he be good enough to hold a spot in either discipline if he wasn't an 'all-rounder'?
As a bowler yes, below from an article on him
He was the leading wicket-taker in last season’s domestic Super Smash T20 competition (18 at 14.11) and is currently tied for second on the Ford Trophy one-day wicket-taking table (12 at 11.91), boosted by his hat-trick against Wellington last month..
I think he has really come on in the last 18 months so the stats are moving in the right direction.
Yeah I have read a few articles on him the last few days. I was sort of hoping someone had seen him play enough to form an opinion. Stats can be misleading. Shame we haven't got a resident domestic cricket fanatic on the Fern who watches games and can comment more on the players.
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He had an appalling white ball record (with the ball) in both versions of the white ball game until last year when he had a stonker of a season with the ball.
His red ball record was always pretty good.
His career List A record with the ball is still actually only back to OK, rather than good. But the projections are in the right direction. I think this is the version he has been selected for for blackcaps?
I think he'll be a good red ball prospect, including as a first or second change bowler. Less sure in the white ball.
Caveat is how helpful pitches have become for bowlers in NZ domestic cricket, for some stupid reason. Apart from this season, which can be explained by weather.
Batting is more in the hitter spectrum rather than batsman spectrum. As opposed to the other young all rounder in the domestics (currently injured) Nathan Smith who has genuine batting skills.
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@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
Anyone know much about Je ry Shipley? I see he has been named in the one day squad and is being touted as an all rounder. I am hoping he is not another bits and pieces player, ok at both but not outstanding in either.
26 year old 1.95cm all rounder plays in the Country comp in Canterbury.
Decent pace and sharp bounce being a tall bowler.
Good bat.A few from the Shipley family have been decent cricketers and rugby players.
Would he be good enough to hold a spot in either discipline if he wasn't an 'all-rounder'?
As a bowler yes, below from an article on him
He was the leading wicket-taker in last season’s domestic Super Smash T20 competition (18 at 14.11) and is currently tied for second on the Ford Trophy one-day wicket-taking table (12 at 11.91), boosted by his hat-trick against Wellington last month..
I think he has really come on in the last 18 months so the stats are moving in the right direction.
Have you seen anything of him Chris? Firta I heard of him was on news, and surely don't claim to enough about cricket to tell if he is good. Looked a little awkward batting being so tall, not sure if it makes difference or anything?
You the cricket man here, so up to you to advise if you don't mind me asking. -
@Rapido said in NZ Cricket 2022:
He had an appalling white ball record (with the ball) in both versions of the white ball game until last year when he had a stonker of a season with the ball.
His red ball record was always pretty good.
His career List A record with the ball is still actually only back to OK, rather than good. But the projections are in the right direction. I think this is the version he has been selected for for blackcaps?
I think he'll be a good red ball prospect, including as a first or second change bowler. Less sure in the white ball.
Caveat is how helpful pitches have become for bowlers in NZ domestic cricket, for some stupid reason. Apart from this season, which can be explained by weather.
Batting is more in the hitter spectrum rather than batsman spectrum. As opposed to the other young all rounder in the domestics (currently injured) Nathan Smith who has genuine batting skills.
I think he was selected for white ball stuff. I might be wrong though.
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@Dan54 said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
Anyone know much about Je ry Shipley? I see he has been named in the one day squad and is being touted as an all rounder. I am hoping he is not another bits and pieces player, ok at both but not outstanding in either.
26 year old 1.95cm all rounder plays in the Country comp in Canterbury.
Decent pace and sharp bounce being a tall bowler.
Good bat.A few from the Shipley family have been decent cricketers and rugby players.
Would he be good enough to hold a spot in either discipline if he wasn't an 'all-rounder'?
As a bowler yes, below from an article on him
He was the leading wicket-taker in last season’s domestic Super Smash T20 competition (18 at 14.11) and is currently tied for second on the Ford Trophy one-day wicket-taking table (12 at 11.91), boosted by his hat-trick against Wellington last month..
I think he has really come on in the last 18 months so the stats are moving in the right direction.
Have you seen anything of him Chris? Firta I heard of him was on news, and surely don't claim to enough about cricket to tell if he is good. Looked a little awkward batting being so tall, not sure if it makes difference or anything?
You the cricket man here, so up to you to advise if you don't mind me asking.A little bit when I was back in NZ ,
Worth a punt as Nz need big tall quicks in my opinion.
Can find the boundary down the lower order if needed.
I like the idea of trying another Jamieson type player.And we lack true allrounders of international quality in NZ . -
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Dan54 said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
Anyone know much about Je ry Shipley? I see he has been named in the one day squad and is being touted as an all rounder. I am hoping he is not another bits and pieces player, ok at both but not outstanding in either.
26 year old 1.95cm all rounder plays in the Country comp in Canterbury.
Decent pace and sharp bounce being a tall bowler.
Good bat.A few from the Shipley family have been decent cricketers and rugby players.
Would he be good enough to hold a spot in either discipline if he wasn't an 'all-rounder'?
As a bowler yes, below from an article on him
He was the leading wicket-taker in last season’s domestic Super Smash T20 competition (18 at 14.11) and is currently tied for second on the Ford Trophy one-day wicket-taking table (12 at 11.91), boosted by his hat-trick against Wellington last month..
I think he has really come on in the last 18 months so the stats are moving in the right direction.
Have you seen anything of him Chris? Firta I heard of him was on news, and surely don't claim to enough about cricket to tell if he is good. Looked a little awkward batting being so tall, not sure if it makes difference or anything?
You the cricket man here, so up to you to advise if you don't mind me asking.A little bit when I was back in NZ ,
Worth a punt as Nz need big tall quicks in my opinion.
Can find the boundary down the lower order if needed.
I like the idea of trying another Jamieson type player.And we lack true allrounders of international quality in NZ .Not an exclusively NZ problem, Mitchell Starc is rated 5th in the world at test level somehow ?!?!
I do wish Neesham and/or Anderson did the business at test level, both had real potential.
The ratings are ridiculous. Littered with batsmen who produce a good bowling performance once in a blue moon and bowlers who bat ok here and there. Fuck all genuine stars of both disciplines.
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@MN5 said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Dan54 said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
Anyone know much about Je ry Shipley? I see he has been named in the one day squad and is being touted as an all rounder. I am hoping he is not another bits and pieces player, ok at both but not outstanding in either.
26 year old 1.95cm all rounder plays in the Country comp in Canterbury.
Decent pace and sharp bounce being a tall bowler.
Good bat.A few from the Shipley family have been decent cricketers and rugby players.
Would he be good enough to hold a spot in either discipline if he wasn't an 'all-rounder'?
As a bowler yes, below from an article on him
He was the leading wicket-taker in last season’s domestic Super Smash T20 competition (18 at 14.11) and is currently tied for second on the Ford Trophy one-day wicket-taking table (12 at 11.91), boosted by his hat-trick against Wellington last month..
I think he has really come on in the last 18 months so the stats are moving in the right direction.
Have you seen anything of him Chris? Firta I heard of him was on news, and surely don't claim to enough about cricket to tell if he is good. Looked a little awkward batting being so tall, not sure if it makes difference or anything?
You the cricket man here, so up to you to advise if you don't mind me asking.A little bit when I was back in NZ ,
Worth a punt as Nz need big tall quicks in my opinion.
Can find the boundary down the lower order if needed.
I like the idea of trying another Jamieson type player.And we lack true allrounders of international quality in NZ .Not an exclusively NZ problem, Mitchell Starc is rated 5th in the world at test level somehow ?!?!
I do wish Neesham and/or Anderson did the business at test level, both had real potential.
The ratings are ridiculous. Littered with batsmen who produce a good bowling performance once in a blue moon and bowlers who bat ok here and there. Fuck all genuine stars of both disciplines.
Australia have a few allrounders Cameron Green fits well into the AR catergory .
Glen Maxwell in the short form is another.
Ashton Agar can bat in the short form is another.
And a lot playing first class just no gaps in the test side.Lack of quality allrounders at test level is a problem world wide.
The country who develops a couple have a big advantage in balancing their side.
So anytime NZ are trying someone I am glad they are having a punt. -
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@MN5 said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Dan54 said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket 2022:
Anyone know much about Je ry Shipley? I see he has been named in the one day squad and is being touted as an all rounder. I am hoping he is not another bits and pieces player, ok at both but not outstanding in either.
26 year old 1.95cm all rounder plays in the Country comp in Canterbury.
Decent pace and sharp bounce being a tall bowler.
Good bat.A few from the Shipley family have been decent cricketers and rugby players.
Would he be good enough to hold a spot in either discipline if he wasn't an 'all-rounder'?
As a bowler yes, below from an article on him
He was the leading wicket-taker in last season’s domestic Super Smash T20 competition (18 at 14.11) and is currently tied for second on the Ford Trophy one-day wicket-taking table (12 at 11.91), boosted by his hat-trick against Wellington last month..
I think he has really come on in the last 18 months so the stats are moving in the right direction.
Have you seen anything of him Chris? Firta I heard of him was on news, and surely don't claim to enough about cricket to tell if he is good. Looked a little awkward batting being so tall, not sure if it makes difference or anything?
You the cricket man here, so up to you to advise if you don't mind me asking.A little bit when I was back in NZ ,
Worth a punt as Nz need big tall quicks in my opinion.
Can find the boundary down the lower order if needed.
I like the idea of trying another Jamieson type player.And we lack true allrounders of international quality in NZ .Not an exclusively NZ problem, Mitchell Starc is rated 5th in the world at test level somehow ?!?!
I do wish Neesham and/or Anderson did the business at test level, both had real potential.
The ratings are ridiculous. Littered with batsmen who produce a good bowling performance once in a blue moon and bowlers who bat ok here and there. Fuck all genuine stars of both disciplines.
Australia have a few allrounders Cameron Green fits well into the AR catergory .
Glen Maxwell in the short form is another.
Ashton Agar can bat in the short form is another.
And a lot playing first class just no gaps in the test side.Lack of quality allrounders at test level is a problem world wide.
The country who develops a couple have a big advantage in balancing their side.
So anytime NZ are trying someone I am glad they are having a punt.Cameron Green has potential but hasn’t really delivered yet. Still plenty of time and I suspect he will.
It’s a good thing Agar shows talent as a batsman cos as a bowler he makes Mitch Santner look like Shane Warne.
The shorter forms of the game have loads of all rounder types who are found wanting in the longer forms. That’s nothing new.
