Landers v lions
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="564195" data-time="1457769890"><p>He's just in charge eh. Be very tough to leave either him or Barrett out of a 23.</p></blockquote><br><br>Barrett has the bench spot, it could be a shootout between Cruden and Lima for the starting position ,<br><br>Thats how I see it anyway ,<br><br>Im starting to think Lima has more upside going forward .
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mattasaurus" data-cid="564189" data-time="1457769420">
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<p>He was bloody good last year too..mainly from the pine..just such a huge work rate.<br><br>
JJ will empty the bench in next few minutes I think</p>
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<p>yet workrate and accuracy was one of the things SJK said was why he wasnt interested in him....despite stats saying the opposite</p>
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Barrett has the bench spot, it could be a shootout between Cruden and Lima for the starting position ,<br><br>
Thats how I see it anyway ,<br><br>
Im starting to think Lima has more upside going forward .</p></blockquote>As much as I'm a fan of Lima, Cruden seems to be rather underrated it seems these days. I certainly don't see more upside in Sopoaga, but there's not much between them anymore.<br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="564199" data-time="1457770442"><p>As much as I'm a fan of Lima, Cruden seems to be rather underrated it seems these days. I certainly don't see more upside in Sopoaga, but there's not much between them anymore.</p></blockquote><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="564199" data-time="1457770442"><p>As much as I'm a fan of Lima, Cruden seems to be rather underrated it seems these days. I certainly don't see more upside in Sopoaga, but there's not much between them anymore.<br><br>Edit: Cruden would still be my starting 10...I think.</p></blockquote><br><br>our coaching staff are smart ,<br><br>Im sure all 3 will feature in AB squads over the upcoming seasons
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For me Cruden just ahead of Lima. Distance to everyone else. Beauden just doesn't have it to start he's bench or not at all.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="564201" data-time="1457770682"><p>our coaching staff are smart ,<br><br>
Im sure all 3 will feature in AB squads over the upcoming seasons</p></blockquote>
No doubt. Cruden against Aus, Lima v SA [emoji4] -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="564203" data-time="1457770702"><p>Cosmic energy.</p></blockquote><br>
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<p>The more I watch Smith and Lima together ,<br><br>
The more i start to think , maybe this is our future in Black .<br><br>
Lima is surprising me , I didnt think he was this good .</p>
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<p>He was a big part of the reason why they won s15 last year. And was outstanding at times playing for Wellington. He completely outplayed Barret in one Taranaki Wellington game</p>
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<p>Where has Cruden got it over him?</p>
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<p> 37 tests Matt</p>
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<p>But it's always a good thing when an "incumbant" is under pressure for his spot. All good</p>
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<p>Cruden is a bit of a forgotten man, prior to his injury he was on the verge I think of really staking his claim, he wont be discarded that quickly though</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mattasaurus" data-cid="564205" data-time="1457770830"><p>Yeah just wondering. ..like everyone else saying not much between them....international experience the big one I guess</p></blockquote>
It's a tough one. I think probably just experience as you say, Cruden just millimetres ahead at working space, maybe slightly more elusive on the run. I wouldn't have any problem at all if Sopoaga got the ten Jersey, apart from it being tough on Cruden. -
Lima the best goalkicker , dont underestimate that
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<p>For me Cruden just ahead of Lima. Distance to everyone else. Beauden just doesn't have it to start he's bench or not at all.</p>
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<p>Give Barrett time. He showed a lot more maturity in his last start. He just needs to start controlling / reading a game and responding accordingly. (And work on his goal kicking). He's 24 now and without Nonu and Smith this year will show whether he has what it takes or not. Hopefully he gets the right advice / coaching</p> -
<p>Impressive the way the Highlanders have got so much out of "ordinary" or discarded players. True definition of a team culture</p>
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<p>Dixon(s) Evans Pryor Edmonds Geldenhuys Ainley as examples</p>
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<p>Blues spend 5 years wondering what's going wrong when the answer is staring them in the face <strike>2000 </strike> 1429 clicks away. Reduce all the media shit, stick with a first XV and adopt swannies as official game day apparel :)</p> -
<p>Aucklanders in Swannies , not sure that would work </p>
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This Landers team is a bloody well coached outfit. A and B Smith are great leaders within the group as well. They've got a great set up going at the moment.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="564209" data-time="1457771089">
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<p>Yeah I'm reminded that Shag believes injuries don't equate to dropping...except for Dagg :)</p>
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<p>Are we pretending Dagg wasn't shit for a full 2-3 years before he was dropped?</p>
