Foster, Robertson etc
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@Crucial I take it you didn't see his comments on the field after Boks one?
Seemingly happy and saying it's the best they've played this year, simple as that.
How can the coach say that with a straight face without knowing he's playing a game?
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@Crucial I take it you didn't see his comments on the field after Boks one?
Seemingly happy and saying it's the best they've played this year, simple as that.
How can the coach say that with a straight face without knowing he's playing a game?
Or maybe an unqualified statement under stress? I don’t know but “playing a game” seems a bit extreme especially when he qualified the words as soon as things settled a bit.
I can’t find what he said (too much noise to search through) but I think he meant that it was the best performance toward getting the plan right and he doubled down on that by saying that with a couple of tweaks they would be putting out something special very soon.
History proved him right.
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@Crucial I take it you didn't see his comments on the field after Boks one?
Seemingly happy and saying it's the best they've played this year, simple as that.
How can the coach say that with a straight face without knowing he's playing a game?
Or maybe an unqualified statement under stress? I don’t know but “playing a game” seems a bit extreme especially when he qualified the words as soon as things settled a bit.
I can’t find what he said (too much noise to search through) but I think he meant that it was the best performance toward getting the plan right and he doubled down on that by saying that with a couple of tweaks they would be putting out something special very soon.
History proved him right.
Now they need to prove it wasn’t a one off.It is the nature of social media and mass media that objectivity left some time ago. But IMHO you can't be that upbeat after what was an abject performance and not expect to cop some flak.
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@Crucial I take it you didn't see his comments on the field after Boks one?
Seemingly happy and saying it's the best they've played this year, simple as that.
How can the coach say that with a straight face without knowing he's playing a game?
Or maybe an unqualified statement under stress? I don’t know but “playing a game” seems a bit extreme especially when he qualified the words as soon as things settled a bit.
I can’t find what he said (too much noise to search through) but I think he meant that it was the best performance toward getting the plan right and he doubled down on that by saying that with a couple of tweaks they would be putting out something special very soon.
History proved him right.
Now they need to prove it wasn’t a one off.I don't know about something special. Something expected from a team of this caliber? Yup.
I think after the game he said best game, in the press conference he said best performance.
You're taking the piss as much as he is trying to defend statements like that after a record loss, following a record loss, following a record loss.
A guy that's been at the top level of the top team for what...15 years? Yeah sure he's naive, nervous, inexperienced...he just blurts out stuff with no thought behind it.
He's playing the game and getting played back, give him his agency back bro...
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Obviously just my opinion but if he was downbeat that would have only dragged the team down when all the work from the coaches and players was to keep them up and focused. It worked.
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@Crucial I take it you didn't see his comments on the field after Boks one?
Seemingly happy and saying it's the best they've played this year, simple as that.
How can the coach say that with a straight face without knowing he's playing a game?
He didn't look happy to me and what he actually said was:
"I'm bitterly disappointed, as I felt..probably our most improved performance this year..in some areas...we really shifted our game forward"
Genuine question: what game do you think Foster was playing at that presser?
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@Victor-Meldrew I'm not sure, probably the same one the press was playing eh! Why didn't you quote what he said in the post game interview, you know, the bit I'm mainly referencing?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@Crucial I take it you didn't see his comments on the field after Boks one?
Seemingly happy and saying it's the best they've played this year, simple as that.
How can the coach say that with a straight face without knowing he's playing a game?
He didn't look happy to me and what he actually said was:
"I'm bitterly disappointed, as I felt..probably our most improved performance this year..in some areas...we really shifted our game forward"
Genuine question: what game do you think Foster was playing at that presser?
Probably trying to put a brave face on it. But it didn't have the effect he may have intended
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I don't know about something special. Something expected from a team of this caliber? Yup.
I'd go wtih special - to get up at the end with 14 men at Ellis Park, at altitude was awesome.
But, I wanted to see this last year against France/Ireland, in Ireland 3 this year, and again in Bokke 1. One good game is not enough (but it's a damn good start)
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Foster didn't like the popgun reference to the AB attack by Stuff. Fair play too, but for me because it was the wrong metaphor. Popguns still fire. Did not in SA test 1 and much of the Irish series-looked then like we learnt nothing from the RWC.
If he said they were on the right track after SA test 1 I could understand he is trying to delay public opinion swelling against him (esp if NZR had told him win 1 out of 2) but it was never going to work with the public-it just seems tone-deaf.
As to the fat references I have no idea anymore if/when it is serious.
What I do believe is that Foster does not want to say what Schmidt's role is regards his level of leadership, Razor won't accept assistant under Foster, and the NZR decision-making power is unclear - even if the chair announces the coach I think Robinson has big sway in the decision. The board just doesn't look like the true decision-makers to me and if they are I wish they had more coaching experience. -
@Victor-Meldrew I'm not sure, probably the same one the press was playing eh! Why didn't you quote what he said in the post game interview, you know, the bit I'm mainly referencing?
Can't find it, sadly, but it was referenced by the media: link
All Blacks coach Ian Foster labels shock loss 'best performance of year'In a post-match interview on the pitch, Foster went further to claim this was the All Blacks' best performance of the year following the first home series defeat in 27 years against Ireland last month.
"We're bitterly disappointed but I felt it was our most improved performance this year," Foster said.
No need to point out the difference between the headline and what Foster actually said.
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@nostrildamus said in Foster:
Foster didn't like the popgun reference to the AB attack by Stuff. Fair play too, but for me because it was the wrong metaphor. Popguns still fire. Did not in SA test 1 and much of the Irish series-looked then like we learnt nothing from the RWC.
If he said they were on the right track after SA test 1 I could understand he is trying to delay public opinion swelling against him (esp if NZR had told him win 1 out of 2) but it was never going to work with the public-it just seems tone-deaf.
As to the fat references I have no idea anymore if/when it is serious.
What I do believe is that Foster does not want to say what Schmidt's role is regards his level of leadership, Razor won't accept assistant under Foster, and the NZR decision-making power is unclear - even if the chair announces the coach I think Robinson has big sway in the decision. The board just doesn't look like the true decision-makers to me and if they are I wish they had more coaching experience.I thought that the board endorses (or not) the recommendations of the CEO from the processes of the interview panel.
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@nostrildamus said in Foster:
Foster didn't like the popgun reference to the AB attack by Stuff. Fair play too, but for me because it was the wrong metaphor. Popguns still fire. Did not in SA test 1 and much of the Irish series-looked then like we learnt nothing from the RWC.
If he said they were on the right track after SA test 1 I could understand he is trying to delay public opinion swelling against him (esp if NZR had told him win 1 out of 2) but it was never going to work with the public-it just seems tone-deaf.
As to the fat references I have no idea anymore if/when it is serious.
What I do believe is that Foster does not want to say what Schmidt's role is regards his level of leadership, Razor won't accept assistant under Foster, and the NZR decision-making power is unclear - even if the chair announces the coach I think Robinson has big sway in the decision. The board just doesn't look like the true decision-makers to me and if they are I wish they had more coaching experience.I thought that the board endorses (or not) the recommendations of the CEO from the processes of the interview panel.
The Board uses the so-called experts advice and tells them if they are happy to support the decision.That happened this time, but previously the Board has interviewed the candidates as well
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Where's Razor
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This article has another dig at Plumtree and Mooar. The rest seems like poorly though out nonsense. I will post some
Starting with 5 Crusaders and adding a Crusaders front row to give 8 is hardly a Crusaders victory. But I guess Reason is only referring to the last 10 minutes
OK Richie replacing Barrett made a big difference. He was in a different league. But the other big improvement was at hooker where a Crusaders player was dropped to the reserves. But are Crusaders missing from leadership position. What about Whitelock. And Ryan? And most of the players mentioned were in Fosters stsating teams when available
But another dig at Plumtree
I know, I know, but it’s true. Last week I wrote how ironic it would be if coach Ian Foster turned to the Crusaders as his saviours. During his tenure he has consistently omitted them from leadership positions. So seven days ago I asked: what if the Crusaders became Foster’s only way out? Only one problem – that door should already be closed. It would be insane of the New Zealand Rugby board if they let Foster off the hook on the basis of 12 minutes of guts and brilliance by Scott Robertson’s men. This wasn’t Foster’s victory. This was a victory built in Crusader land as already referenced by my colleague Duncan Johnstone.and Richie Mo’unga, who had been ludicrously dumped for taking paternity leaveHaven't read this before
These are the sort of questions that should necessitate a change of coach. I understand that Foster’s current anger also extends to Brad Mooar and John Plumtree who he feels let him down and didn't put in the hard yards. But I’m sorry, these were his appointments. He has to take the responsibility.Didn't put in the hard yards. This means lazy. Also haven't read this before. Not just a poor coach but lazy too. I find this hard to believe. Did Reason just make this up or has he heard it from someone. And if so who. Plumtree (and Mooar) must be pissed to read this. Its destroying his reputation with little he can do to counter it
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I don't know about something special. Something expected from a team of this caliber? Yup.
I'd go wtih special - to get up at the end with 14 men at Ellis Park, at altitude was awesome.
But, I wanted to see this last year against France/Ireland, in Ireland 3 this year, and again in Bokke 1. One good game is not enough (but it's a damn good start)
Pedant alert - Beaudie came back on with 3 minutes to go 😉
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Ryan the saviour in more ways than one
