Chiefs v Lions
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Yes Sam i agree
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="562622" data-time="1457157422"><p>Deserved winners lions well done. Forwards set a great platform and the halves picked us apart. <br><br>
For the Chiefs the forwards aren't good enough, and the smarts and discipline were lacking. Not enough quality in the low numbers</p></blockquote>
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Exactly.<br><br>
I'll admit that we couldn't predict Laulala's injury, and with Messam away, Elliot injured, and BBBR off, there is a lot of class missing.<br><br>
However, there have also been some pretty baffling calls about selection made. Yamashita is really fucking terrible. <br><br>
Marshall missed at least two (maybe three) tackles and wasn't accurate enough with his throwing. Manu was ok when we had Ben T to hold up one side, but without him is getting shown up. <br><br>
There is just not enough class (left) in the squad right now.<br><br>
I think we are really missing Messam's contribution in leading and organizing the defense.<br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="562626" data-time="1457157536"><p>Wow, didn't see that coming. Are the Lions the surprise package of 2016?</p></blockquote>
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They'll have a harder time of it when teams start taking them seriously.<br><br>
But sheer determination gets the Lions over the line. Not the most talented bunch but Ackermann taught them the value of offloading and keeps them going at 110% -
<p>Weber fired up the Chiefs backline when he came on, and they showed some real class in the second half, but that first 40 was dire. I have serious concerns about the Chiefs scrum. They got owned by the Crusaders last week, and same thing happened again. Too many fat marshmallows.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="562740" data-time="1457166717"><p>Trying to decide whether Rennie is increasingly relying on past glories, or whether it's just having too many powerpuffs to choose between in the tight five. :think:</p></blockquote>
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Not giving the Lions enough credit. But yes, Chiefs forwards don't look very efficient. <br><br>
The way their backs were celebrating tries while still trailing didn't say much for determination either.<br><br>
Damian McKenzie, apart from being small, has all the skills to play at a very high level but the arrogance is gonna hold him back. -
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<p>Didn't catch the game but doesn't sound like I missed much. What a shit start to what'll be a fuckin tough next few weeks, with them flying from NZ to SA (which'll at least only be the Kings), then to Argentina and then straight back to NZ.</p>
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<p>Actually Unco you missed a cracker of a game. Doesn't make it bad because the Chiefs lost, that was a bloody good performance by the Lions!</p> -
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<p>Not giving the Lions enough credit. But yes, Chiefs forwards don't look very efficient.<br><br>
The way their backs were celebrating tries while still trailing didn't say much for determination either.<br><br>
Damian McKenzie, apart from being small, has all the skills to play at a very high level <strong>but the arrogance is gonna hold him back.</strong></p>
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<p>Ok I'll play, I like to learn new things</p>
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<p>How is this obvious arrogance going to hold him back?</p> -
How does it hold anyone back?<br><br>
You don't work as hard as you should. Your game doesn't evolve. Your decision making differs. The list goes on.<br><br>
You can disagree about his attitude though. Maybe I'm reading it all wrong and he's the first one at practice and the last one to leave. I'm just going by the little I've seen of him on the field. -
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<p>How does it hold anyone back?<br><br>
You don't work as hard as you should. Your game doesn't evolve. Your decision making differs. The list goes on.<br><br>
You can disagree about his attitude though. Maybe I'm reading it all wrong and he's the first one at practice and the last one to leave. I'm just going by the little I've seen of him on the field.</p>
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<p>Agree... but that's not McKenzie. Do you even know the first thing about him off the field?</p> -
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Damian McKenzie, apart from being small, has all the skills to play at a very high level but the arrogance is gonna hold him back.</p>
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<p>What arrogance?</p>
