Aussie Open
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@nostrildamus said in Aussie Open:
Of course sledging his family isn't OK, but how is that Kyrgios fault? I didn't realise waving his arms between points was code for 'sledge this guy's family'.
You may think Kyrgios is a knob, I disagree. I think old mate Venus comes across as a bit of a sook.
This I mostly agree with.
I don't like the crowd behaviour as they were affecting play in some games. I'd be happy if there are more crowds and more enjoy tennis, I just think knocking on the side of boards and chanting/talking over players isn't on.
The Special K or whatever the cereal killers are called aren't directly responsible for crowds sledging their opponents. But mocking their opponents' serve-gamemanship, I just don't like it. I wouldn't like it at club or Pennant level and I don't need to see it at Pro level."You may think Kyrgios is a knob, I disagree."
In an earlier singles game, (against Medvedev I think?) he told an umpire to shut up and listen to him. At that point, I definitely thought he was a knob.
The crowd made it exciting. But you don't encourage them to carry on when the player is ready to serve, or between serves, and then pretend to lose your shit when the serve time limit clock runs out. The bogan crowd lapped that shit up. Contrast that with other great crowds, the Connors Krickstein crowd, Sampras vs Courier in Melbourne, or Rafter Ivanisevic in the Wimbledon final. That one was wild because the weather postponed the final to the Monday and they let the crowds in. Amazing atmosphere, but the players didn't act like total cocks
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Open:
@canefan said in Aussie Open:
@nta said in Aussie Open:
@kiwimurph said in Aussie Open:
“You need to have a rooting interest in someone,” he said.
The era of Hingis and Sharapova featured many rooting interests.
Don't forget Anna Kournikova
everyone did after the 2nd round
But what a way to go....
I was in the stands when she made her first AO appearance in singles. It was like a rock concert
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@voodoo said in Aussie Open:
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
@dogmeat True. He knows that, though. If he knuckled down, worked hard and eliminated the showboat stuff he'd be in the top 10. But he doesn't want to do that for whatever reason. People get quite frustrated with that, but it's ultimately his call. It's an individual sport and he can do what he likes.
The thing I dislike about him, is that he just doesn't have that desire to win. That fighters instinct. He swings for the fence, and if it comes off it comes off. If not, he'll find someone to blame.
Remember how disliked Lleyton was early on? Then everyone grew to love him because he refused to lose, ever. You had to beat the cnt 3 x on every point.
Kyrios on the other hand has quit more points, games and tournaments than I care to remember. Still could be worse I guess, he could be Bernie Tomic.
so, basically, i don't like him because of what he's not.
That's not him. He's not interested in the level of work, and the change in personality that takes
I'm pretty sure he doesn't even like tennis (who fucking does?)He makes a sweet living being himself at something he is good at. Without destroying himself to become someone else (because that's what OTHERS want) There is a lesson there for a lot of people
Took me a while to realise he's not wasting his talent, he's maximising it. Being really fucking good at tennis appears to be about 40% having the shots (which Nick has in spades) and 60% having the mental capacity to grind a tournament (which Nick does not have). Make coin entertaining folks.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Open:
@voodoo said in Aussie Open:
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
@dogmeat True. He knows that, though. If he knuckled down, worked hard and eliminated the showboat stuff he'd be in the top 10. But he doesn't want to do that for whatever reason. People get quite frustrated with that, but it's ultimately his call. It's an individual sport and he can do what he likes.
The thing I dislike about him, is that he just doesn't have that desire to win. That fighters instinct. He swings for the fence, and if it comes off it comes off. If not, he'll find someone to blame.
Remember how disliked Lleyton was early on? Then everyone grew to love him because he refused to lose, ever. You had to beat the cnt 3 x on every point.
Kyrios on the other hand has quit more points, games and tournaments than I care to remember. Still could be worse I guess, he could be Bernie Tomic.
so, basically, i don't like him because of what he's not.
That's not him. He's not interested in the level of work, and the change in personality that takes
I'm pretty sure he doesn't even like tennis (who fucking does?)He makes a sweet living being himself at something he is good at. Without destroying himself to become someone else (because that's what OTHERS want) There is a lesson there for a lot of people
Took me a while to realise he's not wasting his talent, he's maximising it. Being really fucking good at tennis appears to be about 40% having the shots (which Nick has in spades) and 60% having the mental capacity to grind a tournament (which Nick does not have). Make coin entertaining folks.
I don't begrudge him for a second (unless he pulled this shit in a Davis Cup or with an unwilling doubles partner). And if I'm honest, if I had his talent, I reckon I'd be content to have a similar ranking - no way I'd put the required work in.
But I can't bring myself to actually like him when he pulls out of tournaments, disappointing fans, and blames everyone else for shit going wrong.
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@voodoo said in Aussie Open:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Open:
@voodoo said in Aussie Open:
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
@dogmeat True. He knows that, though. If he knuckled down, worked hard and eliminated the showboat stuff he'd be in the top 10. But he doesn't want to do that for whatever reason. People get quite frustrated with that, but it's ultimately his call. It's an individual sport and he can do what he likes.
The thing I dislike about him, is that he just doesn't have that desire to win. That fighters instinct. He swings for the fence, and if it comes off it comes off. If not, he'll find someone to blame.
Remember how disliked Lleyton was early on? Then everyone grew to love him because he refused to lose, ever. You had to beat the cnt 3 x on every point.
Kyrios on the other hand has quit more points, games and tournaments than I care to remember. Still could be worse I guess, he could be Bernie Tomic.
so, basically, i don't like him because of what he's not.
That's not him. He's not interested in the level of work, and the change in personality that takes
I'm pretty sure he doesn't even like tennis (who fucking does?)He makes a sweet living being himself at something he is good at. Without destroying himself to become someone else (because that's what OTHERS want) There is a lesson there for a lot of people
Took me a while to realise he's not wasting his talent, he's maximising it. Being really fucking good at tennis appears to be about 40% having the shots (which Nick has in spades) and 60% having the mental capacity to grind a tournament (which Nick does not have). Make coin entertaining folks.
I don't begrudge him for a second (unless he pulled this shit in a Davis Cup or with an unwilling doubles partner). And if I'm honest, if I had his talent, I reckon I'd be content to have a similar ranking - no way I'd put the required work in.
But I can't bring myself to actually like him when he pulls out of tournaments, disappointing fans, and blames everyone else for shit going wrong.
Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't follow tennis) but he doesn't do that much now he's matured somewhat? A mate's son went to school with him and told me nothing is surprising about NK because that was his personality growing up and he always hated being forced to practise tennis, it's just that he was really good at it.
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Well NK is through to a GS final with TK. And they are up against the other two Aussies.
Barty to go through to the womens final tonight would be huge.
Tennis Australia would be loving it after their PR disaster…
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@act-crusader said in Aussie Open:
Well NK is through to a GS final with TK. And they are up against the other two Aussies.
Barty to go through to the womens final tonight would be huge.
Tennis Australia would be loving it after their PR disaster…
Barty looks much more relaxed than 2020. She is a hug chance to win with a lot of the really big hitters out. Who of note is left? Halep?
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@canefan said in Aussie Open:
@nostrildamus said in Aussie Open:
Of course sledging his family isn't OK, but how is that Kyrgios fault? I didn't realise waving his arms between points was code for 'sledge this guy's family'.
You may think Kyrgios is a knob, I disagree. I think old mate Venus comes across as a bit of a sook.
This I mostly agree with.
I don't like the crowd behaviour as they were affecting play in some games. I'd be happy if there are more crowds and more enjoy tennis, I just think knocking on the side of boards and chanting/talking over players isn't on.
The Special K or whatever the cereal killers are called aren't directly responsible for crowds sledging their opponents. But mocking their opponents' serve-gamemanship, I just don't like it. I wouldn't like it at club or Pennant level and I don't need to see it at Pro level."You may think Kyrgios is a knob, I disagree."
In an earlier singles game, (against Medvedev I think?) he told an umpire to shut up and listen to him. At that point, I definitely thought he was a knob.
The crowd made it exciting. But you don't encourage them to carry on when the player is ready to serve, or between serves, and then pretend to lose your shit when the serve time limit clock runs out. The bogan crowd lapped that shit up. Contrast that with other great crowds, the Connors Krickstein crowd, Sampras vs Courier in Melbourne, or Rafter Ivanisevic in the Wimbledon final. That one was wild because the weather postponed the final to the Monday and they let the crowds in. Amazing atmosphere, but the players didn't act like total cocks
Yep. There's a difference between pumping up the crowd and doing things like baulking on a serve. The match last night was terrific entertainment and didn't require one of the players to act like a complete dickhead. If you don't watch cricket unless there's a streaker then don't watch tennis if you need a clown to make it entertaining for you.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Open:
@canefan said in Aussie Open:
@nostrildamus said in Aussie Open:
Of course sledging his family isn't OK, but how is that Kyrgios fault? I didn't realise waving his arms between points was code for 'sledge this guy's family'.
You may think Kyrgios is a knob, I disagree. I think old mate Venus comes across as a bit of a sook.
This I mostly agree with.
I don't like the crowd behaviour as they were affecting play in some games. I'd be happy if there are more crowds and more enjoy tennis, I just think knocking on the side of boards and chanting/talking over players isn't on.
The Special K or whatever the cereal killers are called aren't directly responsible for crowds sledging their opponents. But mocking their opponents' serve-gamemanship, I just don't like it. I wouldn't like it at club or Pennant level and I don't need to see it at Pro level."You may think Kyrgios is a knob, I disagree."
In an earlier singles game, (against Medvedev I think?) he told an umpire to shut up and listen to him. At that point, I definitely thought he was a knob.
The crowd made it exciting. But you don't encourage them to carry on when the player is ready to serve, or between serves, and then pretend to lose your shit when the serve time limit clock runs out. The bogan crowd lapped that shit up. Contrast that with other great crowds, the Connors Krickstein crowd, Sampras vs Courier in Melbourne, or Rafter Ivanisevic in the Wimbledon final. That one was wild because the weather postponed the final to the Monday and they let the crowds in. Amazing atmosphere, but the players didn't act like total cocks
Yep. There's a difference between pumping up the crowd and doing things like baulking on a serve. The match last night was terrific entertainment and didn't require one of the players to act like a complete dickhead. If you don't watch cricket unless there's a streaker then don't watch tennis if you need a clown to make it entertaining for you.
Great match last night. I don't know how Medvedev escaped. Only a matter of time for Auger Alliasime it would seem
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@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
@frank said in Aussie Open:
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
Oh boo fucking hoo. Shouting obscenities about him, the horror! Would never take place at, say, an Eden Park Bledisloe...
Not that I'm condoning it necessarily, but it's part of sport. Better than playing in front of an empty stadium in round 2 of the Bumfuck Open.
I love the special K show. The crowd is a zoo and yeah they whip them up. Fantastic. Should be more of it. Since when did we decide tennis had to be played in complete silence?
They are setting out to entertain, in a sport that is supposed to be entertaining. I'd be fine with it if it was a pair of Brits at Wimbledon, or yanks at the US Open too. Or at the Davis Cup (as it used to be played anyway). Tennis needs more heaving, hostile home crowds, not less.Aussie take.
Kiwi take: Aww bro that Auzzie duckhead totally showed our boi mad disruspuct, aye. Need to get him down to Dunedin and show him how we do it down here on the South Island, aye. Get some locals, blast a bit of Dave Dobbyn, throw a few Speights in the chilly bin and he'll be wishing he never put his foot on a court, aye. You'd never see our Ruchie or Beaudie or Buck carry on like thut, aye!!!
Nah, that's a wound up Aussie take.
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@act-crusader said in Aussie Open:
Well NK is through to a GS final with TK. And they are up against the other two Aussies.
Barty to go through to the womens final tonight would be huge.
Tennis Australia would be loving it after their PR disaster…
Awesome outcome, regardless of views on NK.
Shame Alcott couldn't get it done, the other oke was v good.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
@canefan said in Aussie Open:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Open:
@canefan said in Aussie Open:
‘Absolute knob’: Kyrgios’ doubles opponent unloads on ‘10-year-old’ antics in fiery tirade
‘Absolute knob’: Kyrgios’ doubles opponent UNLOADS on ‘10-year-old’ antics
Venus calls a spade a spade. He is a talent. But Nick Kyrgios is a knob. They were encouraging the mob and it crossed the line of what is acceptable at a tennis match. It was more like Bay 13 at the G. If the umpire had any balls (she didn't) she would have threatened to kick everyone out of the stadium
At one point said Knob deliberately smashed a ball into the crowd and hit a kid in the stomach. Is that much different to what Djokovic was kicked out of the US Open for doing a couple of years ago?
I went to the Aus Open a couple of years ago and the incredible skill and talent on display was more than enough to entertain me and I suspect anyone else who was there. If you want a clown show go to a farking circus.
I didn't mind them supporting the home town team. But he whipped them up to a frenzy. Venus said they were shouting obscenities about him and his family during the changes of ends. The umpire and referee are right there and did nothing. Weak
Oh boo fucking hoo. Shouting obscenities about him, the horror! Would never take place at, say, an Eden Park Bledisloe...
Not that I'm condoning it necessarily, but it's part of sport. Better than playing in front of an empty stadium in round 2 of the Bumfuck Open.
I love the special K show. The crowd is a zoo and yeah they whip them up. Fantastic. Should be more of it. Since when did we decide tennis had to be played in complete silence?
They are setting out to entertain, in a sport that is supposed to be entertaining. I'd be fine with it if it was a pair of Brits at Wimbledon, or yanks at the US Open too. Or at the Davis Cup (as it used to be played anyway). Tennis needs more heaving, hostile home crowds, not less.
Jesus now I've read anything. An Australian trying a whataboutery defence when talking about fan behaviour. Unbelievable.
Sounds like it was good fun, but surely abusing Venus' family and yelling abuse when he's trying to serve is crossing a line and should be dealt with. I think that's what most people are trying to say.
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
Kiwi take: Aww bro that Auzzie duckhead totally showed our boi mad disruspuct, aye. Need to get him down to Dunedin and show him how we do it down here on the South Island, aye. Get some locals, blast a bit of Dave Dobbyn, throw a few Speights in the chilly bin and he'll be wishing he never put his foot on a court, aye. You'd never see our Ruchie or Beaudie or Buck carry on like thut, aye!!!
Which kiwi wrote anything like that?
Enjoy your tantrum though. BTW, are the RM Williams & Blazer all shined and pressed for the next Tah's game?
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@voodoo said in Aussie Open:
@nta said in Aussie Open:
@voodoo fucking top bloke tho.
Absolutely. Poor Schroder having to follow that!!! I'm embarrassed to be me after listening to that speech.
Why?
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@majorrage said in Aussie Open:
@voodoo said in Aussie Open:
@nta said in Aussie Open:
@voodoo fucking top bloke tho.
Absolutely. Poor Schroder having to follow that!!! I'm embarrassed to be me after listening to that speech.
Why?
Cos he's so grateful for everything he has, so humble, and so nice.
And I'm, well, me.
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@voodoo said in Aussie Open:
@majorrage said in Aussie Open:
@voodoo said in Aussie Open:
@nta said in Aussie Open:
@voodoo fucking top bloke tho.
Absolutely. Poor Schroder having to follow that!!! I'm embarrassed to be me after listening to that speech.
Why?
Cos he's so grateful for everything he has, so humble, and so nice.
And I'm, well, me.
No need to be embarrassed mate. As he said, he hated himself growing up & has had to adapt. Fair play to him, but I doubt he said anything he did to make others feel embarrassed & would probably be ashamed himself, if so.
This won't be popular but that speech was a bit Kanye for me. Yes, you won, but don't forget that today is all about me.
"I'm gonna let you finish, but .... "
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@majorrage the difference being Kanye continues to plague us.
That was Alcott's last appearance in the AO
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@majorrage said in Aussie Open:
@voodoo said in Aussie Open:
@majorrage said in Aussie Open:
@voodoo said in Aussie Open:
@nta said in Aussie Open:
@voodoo fucking top bloke tho.
Absolutely. Poor Schroder having to follow that!!! I'm embarrassed to be me after listening to that speech.
Why?
Cos he's so grateful for everything he has, so humble, and so nice.
And I'm, well, me.
No need to be embarrassed mate. As he said, he hated himself growing up & has had to adapt. Fair play to him, but I doubt he said anything he did to make others feel embarrassed & would probably be ashamed himself, if so.
This won't be popular but that speech was a bit Kanye for me. Yes, you won, but don't forget that today is all about me.
"I'm gonna let you finish, but .... "
Look, I'm not about to publicly shame myself! I'm just saying it was a cool speech and a good reminder to be thankful for all the things we take for granted every day. Seems like a good human to me.
