All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023
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@bobily2 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
I've taken last years Super Rugby stats and adjusted them for the amount of game time. The figures are essentially what we might expect from each player if they were to play for 80 mins.
Makes you wonder what Hodgman did wrong, how was he left out for Bower?
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@gt12 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@bobily2 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
I've taken last years Super Rugby stats and adjusted them for the amount of game time. The figures are essentially what we might expect from each player if they were to play for 80 mins.
Makes you wonder what Hodgman did wrong, how was he left out for Bower?
I don't imagine he would've gone worse in the scrum than Bower? I can't remember, though
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@bobily2 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@gt12 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@bobily2 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
I've taken last years Super Rugby stats and adjusted them for the amount of game time. The figures are essentially what we might expect from each player if they were to play for 80 mins.
Makes you wonder what Hodgman did wrong, how was he left out for Bower?
I don't imagine he would've gone worse in the scrum than Bower? I can't remember, though
He has pretty long levers by comparison which may not help, but from the other side, whereas Bower is a bit small Hodgman has considerable size to use around the park - as supported by those stats.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@bobily2 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@gt12 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@bobily2 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
I've taken last years Super Rugby stats and adjusted them for the amount of game time. The figures are essentially what we might expect from each player if they were to play for 80 mins.
Makes you wonder what Hodgman did wrong, how was he left out for Bower?
I don't imagine he would've gone worse in the scrum than Bower? I can't remember, though
He has pretty long levers by comparison which may not help, but from the other side, whereas Bower is a bit small Hodgman has considerable size to use around the park - as supported by those stats.
Yea, you'd expect his size would mean he's more likely to have impact at a ruck/tackle too, which wouldn't be reflected in those stats.
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@bones said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@bobily2 that is some godawful reading for Joe & Karl.
Might be time for both to be dropped, unless they have stellar seasons in SR.
Hodgman, Ross, and De Groot, with Tu'ungufasi covering both sides?
Oli Norris as bolter?
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@tim said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@bones said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@bobily2 that is some godawful reading for Joe & Karl.
Might be time for both to be dropped, unless they have stellar seasons in SR.
Hodgman, Ross, and De Groot, with Tu'ungufasi covering both sides?
From @Chris post above, Williams might be being set up to be the new Ofa/Moli.
I'd personally prefer Ofa to focus on TH and us develop another both side option.
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@bones said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@tim yeah I saw, I was just surprised he hadn't really been talked about already. I know nothing of him, but the stats look handy.
He's had fuck-all game time so far, but I hope he turns out good. That data doesn't have total minutes played, but I assume his are really low.
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@tim said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@bobily2 Where are those stats from? I've found the Rugbypass data to be pretty poor.
The data is from Opta, so the stats provider that NZ rugby uses.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@bones said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@tim yeah I saw, I was just surprised he hadn't really been talked about already. I know nothing of him, but the stats look handy.
He's had fuck-up game time so far, but I hope he turns out good. That data doesn't have total minutes played, but I assume his are really low.
I'll try include actual mins played in anything else I put out there. Ollie Norris had 300 mins.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
He's had fuck-up game time so far, but I hope he turns out good. That data doesn't have total minutes played, but I assume his are really low.
Yeah, there will be guys who come off the bench late in the game, and will probably get relatively more run metres and less tackles because of that.
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@bobily2 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@gt12 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@bones said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@tim yeah I saw, I was just surprised he hadn't really been talked about already. I know nothing of him, but the stats look handy.
He's had fuck-up game time so far, but I hope he turns out good. That data doesn't have total minutes played, but I assume his are really low.
I'll try include actual mins played in anything else I put out there. Ollie Norris had 300 mins.
I love this data btw, it's really cool!
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@gt12 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@bobily2 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@gt12 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@bones said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@tim yeah I saw, I was just surprised he hadn't really been talked about already. I know nothing of him, but the stats look handy.
He's had fuck-up game time so far, but I hope he turns out good. That data doesn't have total minutes played, but I assume his are really low.
I'll try include actual mins played in anything else I put out there. Ollie Norris had 300 mins.
I love this data btw, it's really cool!
Great, I'll try and share little snippets of it where it might be relevant. I don't have much for NPC or All Blacks, unfortunately. But if people find reliable sources for these I can see if i can do something with those too.
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