All Blacks vs Springboks II
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
The only consolation is we were missing Cane, Whitelock, Smith. That's a lot of leadership and quality there. And the Boks were simply more desperate
That's also a lot of old age.....
In between aren't we? A lack of onfield leadership right now. But I want to see us consistently go up the guts and be more physical. Set piece was poor, discipline was poor, and they were better than last week
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Don't think we played badly. The Boks were the Boks. It is an indication of where we are at. Plenty of growth and work ons needed. Onwards and upwards!
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Tactics need to change. We need to know when to knuckle down and when to air it out. Can't forget the basics
Jeez who decides on these tactics, who tells the forward pack to minimise commitment to rucks/breakdown? Bloody coaches
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@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
How the fuck was it Moungas fault, He had no control with TJ barking shit from
The base .He needed to demand the ball from that ruck and TJP give it to him. As I said play territory and kick into the corner with time nearly up. You know, like in the 2015 RWC SF.
FFS yeah blame the guy who was on for 15 minutes not the Fuck wits who played most of the game.
Mo'unga isn't the reason we lost, not in a million years, but the fact is a player like DC would have taken control of that last 15. Mo'unga didn't. We don't have a world class 10 at the moment and it hurts us in tight games like this.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Tactics need to change. We need to know when to knuckle down and when to air it out. Can't forget the basics
Jeez who decides on these tactics, who tells the forward pack to minimise commitment to rucks/breakdown? Bloody coaches
Also playing loose in our 22. All the stuff the Boks feed off. The multiple offside pens weren't the coaches' fault
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
How the fuck was it Moungas fault, He had no control with TJ barking shit from
The base .He needed to demand the ball from that ruck and TJP give it to him. As I said play territory and kick into the corner with time nearly up. You know, like in the 2015 RWC SF.
FFS yeah blame the guy who was on for 15 minutes not the Fuck wits who played most of the game.
Mo'unga isn't the reason we lost, not in a million years, but the fact is a player like DC would have taken control of that last 15. Mo'unga didn't. We don't have a world class 10 at the moment and it hurts us in tight games like this.
Wasn't easy, even DMac couldn't do anything
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
How the fuck was it Moungas fault, He had no control with TJ barking shit from
The base .He needed to demand the ball from that ruck and TJP give it to him. As I said play territory and kick into the corner with time nearly up. You know, like in the 2015 RWC SF.
FFS yeah blame the guy who was on for 15 minutes not the Fuck wits who played most of the game.
Mo'unga isn't the reason we lost, not in a million years, but the fact is a player like DC would have taken control of that last 15. Mo'unga didn't. We don't have a world class 10 at the moment and it hurts us in tight games like this.
Actually we lost game in first 25 of second half?
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That was a pretty typical perforance from Beauden. The kick to Reece and the run to set up Savea's try were absolutely magic. He creates tries for us not many others can. He's an amazing footballer but not a natural 10, and in an arm wrestle like that it becomes apparent as you want your 10 to take control of the game.
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@Chris
I am only talking about what TJP (mainly) and Mo'unga should have done from the scrum on halfway. Nothing more. Savea made a great run off a retreating scrum and then the percentage play was to kick behind SA and force them to run or kick the ball back. I certainly aren't absolving the forwards in that passage of play. -
@joan-and-mary hi , no I will die in Australia, on pension at the most southernly point of Africa doing self catering accommodation.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Tactics need to change. We need to know when to knuckle down and when to air it out. Can't forget the basics
Our tactics are poor. We offer nothing that forces the defence to make a decision. We don't carry strongly and bend the line.
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Anyway, thanks all, the game thread was great value as always. Tough result but happy to give the Boks credit for really stepping up, when they play like that they are a bloody hard team to overcome.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Tactics need to change. We need to know when to knuckle down and when to air it out. Can't forget the basics
Our tactics are poor. We offer nothing that forces the defence to make a decision. We don't carry strongly and bend the line.
Sometimes we do. But not nearly enough. JK commenting post match making good points. Young team, lack of experience, bad decisions, troubling set piece, one dimensional attack
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Anyway, thanks all, the game thread was great value as always. Tough result but happy to give the Boks credit for really stepping up, when they play like that they are a bloody hard team to overcome.
Agreed. I don't want to take away from a Bok performance tonight that smothered us and dominated the source of our game; quick ball at the breakdown.
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