Marvel movies and tv shows
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@tim said in Marvel movies and tv shows:
@kirwan That was a Tim original, but I'm sure it's been made by many other people.
I’m really struggling with Marvel overload at the moment. If my son wasn’t so excited by these shows and wanting to discuss then, I’d eject from these TV shows.
The Eternals was the worst movie I’ve seen in years. Fucking dribble.
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After finishing Hawkeye last night this has been my favourite of the TV shows released this year. It has just the right combination of action and comedy, and the appearance of a much-loved villain.
I was late to the party so didn't read this thread to avoid spoilers. My ranking would be:
Hawkeye
WandaVision
Loki
What If...?
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@bovidae said in Marvel movies and tv shows:
After finishing Hawkeye last night this has been my favourite of the TV shows released this year. It has just the right combination of action and comedy, and the appearance of a much-loved villain.
I was late to the party so didn't read this thread to avoid spoilers. My ranking would be:
Hawkeye
WandaVision
Loki
What If...?
The Falcon and the Winter SoldierI sat down to do my top 10 movies list (which I think I post every year on the Fern), but I normally base it off my list of movies I see in the cinema (which the various membership clubs keep records of) which was difficult this year as I watched way more not at the cinema due to Glady's Delta.
Then I realised I'd seen 8 or the 9 Marvel releases this year so that would be an easier list to do. I haven't seen What If, so here's my ranking of this years marvel from favourite to least favourite.
Wandavision: I thought this was great from the confusing sitcom beginning, which I know some didn't like, through the expanding storyline.
Shang-Chi: I think this was my first post Delta movie, so it was both great to be back in the cinema and see a movie with some good action set pieces. Could have done without the flying eel/dragons at the end but aside from that really enjoyed it.
Spider-man: This was just a good fun movie, I had a few issues with it, but then that is true of any Marvel property I think. Best way to explain the quality of this movie is it made me care about the second Spider-man and not dislike the actor like I normally do.
Hawkeye: Best way to explain the quality of this show is it made me care about Hawkeye. Kate Bishop was a good addition, I like the actress in most roles she plays, and new Black Widow was fun too.
The Eternals: I don't get the distain for this movie. I knew nothing about The Eternals going in, yet managed to keep up with all the new characters being introduced, and understood who their characters were. I liked it, even though I thought it was bit overlong and needed a tighter edit (again something most Marvel films could do with).
Black Widow: The first half espionage thriller movie was really good, the final act Marvel fight on a floating ship wasn't. I wish it had stayed an espionage thriller, if so it would have been higher on the list. This also came quite a few years too late.
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier: Another mostly good show that like The Eternals seems to attract some distain on the interwebs. I enjoyed it enough while watching it. Probably wanted to see more of the title characters together, and the original Cap storyline would have been better to be the A plot rather than those weird freedom-fighter/terrorists.
Loki: I like Tom Hiddleston and Owen Wilson, however, I found the female variant and the big overlord dude at the end to be wooden and uncharismatic. I can remember really enjoying parts of it but being ultimately disappointed at the end (and largely due to those casting choices). Gugu MBatha Raw's mere presence nearly kept it in the top half, nearly, but she wasn't in it quite enough.
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I know almost nothing about moonknight, yet another genre shift for Marvel, feels like a physcological thriller maybe, almost donny darko kind of vibe?
I do have a feeling from this like i had from eternals....i really dont see how they'll merge with the rest of the MCU
re your point about eternals @Nepia, other than my point just there about how it works with the rest, i think , my biggest issue was the reason for them not helping fight thanos, "we never interfere except when it involves deviants"...except all the stuff you do helping nudge the human race along...and if their end game was to grow the population so it was big enough for the celestial to feed...surely stopping half of them dying would have helped...and finally they went from not caring if half the world died to very much caring very quickly...like caring enough to try and kill each other
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@kiwiwomble said in Marvel movies and tv shows:
I know almost nothing about moonknight, yet another genre shift for Marvel, feels like a physcological thriller maybe, almost donny darko kind of vibe?
I do have a feeling from this like i had from eternals....i really dont see how they'll merge with the rest of the MCU
re your point about eternals @Nepia, other than my point just there about how it works with the rest, i think , my biggest issue was the reason for them not helping fight thanos, "we never interfere except when it involves deviants"...except all the stuff you do helping nudge the human race along...and if their end game was to grow the population so it was big enough for the celestial to feed...surely stopping half of them dying would have helped...and finally they went from not caring if half the world died to very much caring very quickly...like caring enough to try and kill each other
Vaguely a Marvel version of Batman.
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@kiwiwomble the trailer seems focused on his “multiple personalities “ but when in super mode his abilities are about hand to hand combat and gadgets. He is meant to get stronger with moon phases though.
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@kiwiwomble Yeah, I thought the premise that they've been around but didn't do anything was bloody stupid. I'd have preferred if they were just in their own universe. We can blame Fiege for that.
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@nepia or that they went into hibernation after killing the last deviant...something
one of the interesting things about marvel though, for better or worse, they dont generally give up on a movie, they get in different director, tweek the direction and the sequel will probably be a success
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I like the overall idea, the combined hero's do seem a little "light", but we've also already seen Hulk out of control, and then he got his hulk side under control, so theyre going to have to come up with a new reason for him to loose control and go to space
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well shit...Patrick Stewart's Dr X showing up in the Dr Strange Trailer, also looked like the human torch, not only bring "the X-men" and "fantastic 4" into the MCU...but bringing at least the existing X-Men like they did with spiderman's
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@kiwiwomble said in Marvel movies and tv shows:
well shit...Patrick Stewart's Dr X showing up in the Dr Strange Trailer, also looked like the human torch, not only bring "the X-men" and "fantastic 4" into the MCU...but bringing at least the existing X-Men like they did with spiderman's
Sam Raini? No wonder it looks a little like Spiderman on ice tea lashed with hashish. I didn't realize, by the way, that he was interested in directing the Hobbit.
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@kiwiwomble Was he in the trailer? I didn't notice him?
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@hooroo you hear (1:18) him so no, not on screen. I guess he could be playing a different character but i think thats less likely given the premise of the film and what we saw in Spiderman
We see stange brought before a group of people, a panel, read rumor it may be the "illuminati" so the "smartest" people from each dimension?
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I'm hoping that Moon Knight does well, and Marvel Studios starts developing some series for other more fringe characters. I'm sure you could create a pretty kickass Howard the Duck series, and there is a ton of source material for one of my favorite fun Marvel Characters - The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl (see screenshot below)
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@stockcar86 my biggest concern is how big its getting, all these heros....where were they when thanos turned up? kind of wish they had draw a line under the MCU after that and started again with the new heros
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@kiwiwomble said in Marvel movies and tv shows:
@stockcar86 my biggest concern is how big its getting, all these heros....where were they when thanos turned up? kind of wish they had draw a line under the MCU after that and started again with the new heros
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Just watched Infinity War for only the 2nd time
Hands down best comic book movie ever
A fucking triumph of planning to bring all those threads together. Marvel absolutely nailed it, and that level will be often copied but never met.
Thanos might be the best movie villain ever. Super powerful. Single minded. Some level of emotion. And you can almost empathise with his cause.
Just awesome