Article: The Original Rugby Championship - Six Nations 2016
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<p>Congrats to England on winning The Six Nations Rugby Championship Trophy for 2016.</p>
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<p>And the Triple Crown.</p>
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<p>And Millennium Trophy.</p>
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<p>And the Calcutta Cup.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Pot Hale" data-cid="564425" data-time="1457904576">
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<p>I don't think it is impossible to judge them, BT.</p>
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<p>Ireland still had to play and win the game. Clear decision by Schmidt as to how he wanted to run the game. Although the cynics might say, the players who exceeded the total team offload limit of 3 per match will be sanctioned tomorrow. :)</p>
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<p>Should be a good game next weekend with both teams going for it. </p>
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<p>The difference between 3rd and 4th place is approx €1m apparently. </p>
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<p>Look, I'm not downplaying it, it was a well-taken win. But the real test is Scotland next week. Just to remind you</p>
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<p>NZ 76 - Italy 14</p>
<p>NZ 108 - Portugal 13</p>
<p>NZ 85 - Romania 8</p>
<p>NZ 40 - Scotland B 0</p>
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<p>NZ 18 - France 20</p>
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<p>A pasting against a fairly hopeless Italian side is good for moral, and involved some well-taken tries. It does not yet signal an Irish recovery.</p> -
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<p>Look, I'm not downplaying it, it was a well-taken win. <strong>But the real test is Scotland next week</strong>. Just to remind you</p>
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<p>NZ 76 - Italy 14</p>
<p>NZ 108 - Portugal 13</p>
<p>NZ 85 - Romania 8</p>
<p>NZ 40 - Scotland B 0</p>
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<p>NZ 18 - France 20</p>
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<p>A pasting against a fairly hopeless Italian side is good for moral, and involved some well-taken tries. It does not yet signal an Irish recovery.</p>
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<p>The mighty Scots will be buoyed by their victories, they'll take some beating ( two clichés in one sentence )</p> -
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<p>Well only 15 years in Italys case, I'm glad the Scots have already outdone themselves in the tournament already with a game in hand.</p>
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<p>I'm just sure I saw or read it somewhere.</p>
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<p>Yeah, 15 odd years only for Italy but the risks are there for all. The tournament would survive if Italy got relegated but I'm not sure it would if any of the others suffered the fate. None of the home nations would vote for relegation (just in case. You never know sort of thing) and Italy wouldn't vote for it 'cos most years they would be the ones at most risk. France might vote for it just because they do things differently. :think:</p> -
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How shit are Italy though, I've heard talk of promotion relegation type scenarios in the Six Nations, surely Romania would back themselves to beat the spaghetti eaters at the moment ?</p></blockquote>
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They usually collapse at the end of the tournament. On top of that they had multiple injuries, debutants and both second rows went off early. <br><br>
They will improve though. Italian right has been badly run by amateurs but they have been making changes for a few years at underage levels and academies etc. It's more of a long term thing though. -
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<p>Yep, was expecting a typically gutsy 26-12 type scoreline but to the bad guys. Rumour has it Vern Cotter even smiled.</p>
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<p>They'll come against Ireland thinking they can win ( sorry that line probably belongs in the cliché thread )</p>
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<p>How shit are Italy though, I've heard talk of promotion relegation type scenarios in the Six Nations, surely Romania would back themselves to beat the spaghetti eaters at the moment ?</p>
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<p>I can't see this happening. Each week end of Six Nations, thousands of supporters are traveling abroad. Rome is a great destination. Do you imagine 20 000 Irish or English fans going to Bucarest to watch a game of rugby ? Hmmm, not me.</p> -
<p>Having watched a little of this years' 6N, England are comfortable and deserving winners. They certainly playing better than their competition.</p>
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<p>I read in the Economist some time back that Italy's struggles can be partly attributed to poor kicking conversion - they've certainly had enough close games that it would have made a difference. But for all the improvement in Georgia etc. Italy can't be removed from the 6N even for a year. They need the ongoing support - it took the NZRFU decades to support Australian rugby.</p> -
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<p>I can't see this happening. Each week end of Six Nations, thousands of supporters are traveling abroad. Rome is a great destination. Do you imagine 20 000 Irish or English fans going to Bucarest to watch a game of rugby ? Hmmm, not me.</p>
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<p>I went to Bucharest in 2014 to watch Canada v Romania. Terrible game - from memory Romania shoved their scrum all over the park and they kicked 6 penalties for the win (Don Clarke-ish). Cold, miserable weather and I was drinking warm plonk. Having said all that, I would go again in a heartbeat. City was lively and rugby supporters partied hard. I'd certainly support Romania in the 7N.</p>
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<p>Nope. Six nations is enough thanks very much. More is not always more you know. Italy suck balls this year but they have been more competitive and no doubt will be again and are worth their place. Whilst both Romania and Georgia might actually beat Italy at present it is by no means certain and it should be remembered that they are both currently on a high and Italy are currently on a low. Italy have beaten all the other 6N teams apart from England and I do not see either Georgia or Romania doing that in the foreseeable future.</p>
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<p>What I would like to see is the 6N second teams entering a tournament with the likes of Georgia and providing some stiffer competition for them as well as providing more opportunities for the 6N second teams. We could then review the progress of these other nations a few years down the road to see if they remain viable.</p> -
<p>As expected both Marler and Francis get cited for foul play, with Marler still under a cloud for the Gypsy Boy comment and a further possible citing. For me the pikey comment got apologised for at half time (and accepted I believe). That should be the end of it. Neither of the two incidences of foul play looked that bad. Marlers was nothing more than a "hello it's me" tap and whilst Francis did make contact with the eyes there was no element of hooked fingers or gouging. However. Judiciary. Plus Ashton got ten weeks for something more innocuous than Francis' transgression. Anything is possible.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="564585" data-time="1457964384"><p>whilst Francis did make contact with the eyes there was no element of hooked fingers or gouging.</p></blockquote> I have to disagree Cato. I thought at the time that the very thing that made this look intentional was that Francis' fingers do indeed hook upwards as his body weight is falling forward. If he was merely reaching for something to lean on, e.g. Cole's face, his hand posture was all wrong. This looked to me like a deliberate attempt to scrape across Cole's face. Dumb, and hopefully sees him get a few weeks. To be honest, I think it's easily worse than the Ashton incident (and I say that as someone who doesn't particularly like Ashton)
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<p>The mighty Scots will be buoyed by their victories, they'll take some beating ( two clichés in one sentence )</p>
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<p>I know as Kiwis we like to laugh at the Scots, but I've found them quite good. Their main weakness this 6N has been their lineout - Ford is not a particularly flash hooker - and it cost them dear vs England, but they have shown more enterprise in the backs than Ireland. Ireland's Toner will target their lineout for sure.</p>
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<p>They will give this weekend a good shot - chance for 3 consecutive victories for the first time in 20 years, first time they win 3 games in the 6N since 2006, and a chance to finish 3rd.</p>
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<p>Their FB Hogg is a nailed on Lion's tourist.</p> -
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<p>Having watched a little of this years' 6N, England are comfortable and deserving winners.</p>
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<p>Their forward pack squashed Ireland and Wales in the first half. Just couldn't turn all the possession and territory into an unassailable lead. But their backs will improve, probably by dropping one of their ten's, and putting Slade at 12.</p>
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<p>Likely to become proper opposition for NZ again, although I think we have a break from England for a while.</p>
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<p>Predicting Wales 0 - NZ 3</p>
<p>Ireland 0 - SA 3</p>
<p>Eng 1 - Aus 2</p>
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<p>in the June tests.</p> -
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<p><strong>I know as Kiwis we like to laugh at the Scots</strong>, but I've found them quite good. Their main weakness this 6N has been their lineout - Ford is not a particularly flash hooker - and it cost them dear vs England, but they have shown more enterprise in the backs than Ireland. Ireland's Toner will target their lineout for sure.</p>
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<p>They will give this weekend a good shot - chance for 3 consecutive victories for the first time in 20 years, first time they win 3 games in the 6N since 2006, and a chance to finish 3rd.</p>
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<p>Their FB Hogg is a nailed on Lion's tourist.</p>
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<p>People don't dare laugh at the Scots under my watch on here.</p>
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<p>They actually have a bit of depth out wide in Seymour and Maitland plus Hogg as you mentioned. Visser might not be as good as people( me ) thought he was going to be and Lamont might be 200 years old but there is talent there still. When Weir, Grimes and Murray were in the engine room their lineout was a source of strength, no excuses why they can't be doing the same with Gray and Gray there.</p> -
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<p>People don't dare laugh at the Scots under my watch on here.</p>
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<p>Hhmmm, you are first to point out people getting all internet warrior tough guy....</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiF5KvRg8HLAhVBPZQKHd0BAqMQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DiC--6V65dvY&psig=AFQjCNFKQqRJtSYFdWZPA4OF6Czj91Dmng&ust=1458074135672864'><img height="180" src="http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/iC--6V65dvY/mqdefault.jpg" width="320" alt="mqdefault.jpg"></a></p> -
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<p>Predicting Wales 0 - NZ 3</p>
<p>Ireland 0 - SA 3</p>
<p>Eng 1 - Aus 2</p>
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<p>in the June tests.</p>
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<p>Agreed. Wales don't look like troubling the All Blacks, Ireland aren't inventive enough, nor are their forwards combative enough to beat up the Boks at home. Australia has a competitive forward pack and better backs, so they should account for England.</p> -
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<p>Hhmmm, you are first to point out people getting all internet warrior tough guy....</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiF5KvRg8HLAhVBPZQKHd0BAqMQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DiC--6V65dvY&psig=AFQjCNFKQqRJtSYFdWZPA4OF6Czj91Dmng&ust=1458074135672864'><img height="180" src="http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/iC--6V65dvY/mqdefault.jpg" width="320" alt="mqdefault.jpg"></a></p>
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<p>I was hoping no one would notice the blatant hypocrisy in my post but then I remembered the likes of you who checks the fern before your morning dump and knew I was doomed.</p> -
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<p>I was hoping no one would notice the blatant hypocrisy in my post but then I remembered the likes of you who checks the fern <strike>before </strike>during your morning dump and knew I was doomed.</p>
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<p>Fixed</p> -
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Fixed</p></blockquote>
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Staying classy, Crucial. ðŸ‘
