Klitschko, Fury, Parker, Takam & Joshua
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Aren't Inga and Tua cousins? Some good genes in that kid.
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Aren't Inga and Tua cousins? Some good genes in that kid.</p></blockquote>
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Yeah, sounds familiar. Pretty sure they're related to the Anoa'i clan as well (pro wrestlers, Yokozuna, Rikishi, Usos, Roman Reigns to name a few of the more recent ones).<br><br>
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<p>I see that Solomon Haumono has called out Parker. </p>
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<p>Considering BoxRec has him at 108 and Parker at 11, I can't see any upside in this for Parker at all unless he needs to fill a schedule gap.</p>
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<p>People complain about Parker's record being against no-names, you should see Haumono's</p> -
<p>The rankings on that BoxRec site are interesting. A very complex points system that make the World Rugby one look like kindergarten maths but essentially one that tries to determine points based on opponents rankings and the decisiveness of wins (eg what round, what decision was). Also takes into account the opposition's opposition. So if you were to lose to an up and comer ranked below you who also then went on next fight to demolish someone well above you as well, you don't cop it so much.</p>
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<p>Anyway, for all the talk of Parker fighting bunnies, this seems to rebut that (comparatively speaking). He is fighting guys good enough to earn good points in this system. Is ranked 11 compared to Joshua at 16 (although that could be due to having 2 extra fights).</p>
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<p>Lining Parker up later in the year against someone like Erkan Teper or Luis Ortiz would seriously boost him up although, I daresay fights like that also need to fit into actual federation rankings to have effect.</p> -
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;">Don't let the youthful appearance fool you, he knows his boxing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;">He covers Parker a lot. Lots of up and comers in the Heavyweight division. Next few years are going to be exiting I think.</span></p>
<p> <br><a class="" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWjnpQf8jGGimqohpAP7e1Q">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWjnpQf8jGGimqohpAP7e1Q</a></p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="553762" data-time="1453414468"><p>I see that Solomon Haumono has called out Parker. <br>
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Considering BoxRec has him at 108 and Parker at 11, I can't see any upside in this for Parker at all unless he needs to fill a schedule gap.<br>
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People complain about Parker's record being against no-names, you should see Haumono's</p></blockquote>
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<p>The rankings on that BoxRec site are interesting. A very complex points system that make the World Rugby one look like kindergarten maths but essentially one that tries to determine points based on opponents rankings and the decisiveness of wins (eg what round, what decision was). Also takes into account the opposition's opposition. So if you were to lose to an up and comer ranked below you who also then went on next fight to demolish someone well above you as well, you don't cop it so much.</p>
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<p>Anyway, for all the talk of Parker fighting bunnies, this seems to rebut that (comparatively speaking). He is fighting guys good enough to earn good points in this system. Is ranked 11 compared to Joshua at 16 (although that could be due to having 2 extra fights).</p>
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<p>Lining Parker up later in the year against someone like Erkan Teper or Luis Ortiz would seriously boost him up although, I daresay fights like that also need to fit into actual federation rankings to have effect.</p>
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<p>It's not bad that Parker is fighting no names. I just find it interesting that some people are paying to watch Parker fight no names. Boxrec only ranks Bergman at 79.</p> -
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It comes down to selling Parker as a potential world champ and getting fans on board who want to be able to say that they were along for the journey. <br>
Most of these people also understand that they won't get great value for money if looking only for quality match ups. <br>
What makes a quality match up is some even competitiveness. You would be a fool to make all of your fights at that level not only because of damage to your record but from damage to yourself and you'd be burned out well before getting a chance -
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<p>It comes down to selling Parker as a potential world champ and getting fans on board who want to be able to say that they were along for the journey.<br>
Most of these people also understand that they won't get great value for money if looking only for quality match ups.<br>
What makes a quality match up is some even competitiveness. You would be a fool to make all of your fights at that level not only because of damage to your record but from damage to yourself and you'd be burned out well before getting a chance</p>
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<p>Being along for Parker's journey would have cost you $600 by this point, unless you go halves with mates. That's cool for people who can afford it and derive pleasure from watching it. I just don't get it is all.</p> -
<p>Honestly guys would it kill one boxing promoter to be truthful. I was just listening to Dean being interviewed on radio and he mentioned how great Jason Bergman was as a boxer and that he had gone his last 18 fighter undefeated. Obviously Dean wants to get the PPV boasted on sky because this is a flat out lie and id be amazed if Dean as a professional promotions company had no idea of Jason Bergmans record at all.</p>
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<p>Lets be frank Bergman is a punching bag who has lost 2 of his last 18 fights, that's nothing to be ashamed of but it was against questionable quality of opposition. Not only that of his last 25 fights he has lost 6 fights against guys struggling to be in the top 100.</p>
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<p>Joseph Parker is ranked on potential alone not on credential. Collecting ranking points via weak fighters is what most boxers are doing to get ahead these days. My understanding is Parker has made a top 10 ranking across the federations by not fighting one boxer in the top 20. He no doubt has talent but the glory days of heavyweight are dead. Even Wilder dodged Povetkin for Spilka, Fury will dodge Haye and the IBF was vacated to a fight between two plods which Martin won when he is no champion boxer of quality. New blood has not been quality blood. Tua had it way way way tougher on his climb.<br><br>
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Mate I think your chances of finding an honest boxing promoter anywhere worse than finding a virgin bride at a west Auckland wedding and building up your record with weak opponents seems to be the way most of them aim for a title shot. They get found out sooner or later though and then they become the punching bag for others looking for a shot. <br><br>
If like to see this guy get another title shot but for obvious reasons opponents avoid him. <a class="bbc_url" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennady_Golovkin">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennady_Golovkin</a> -
<p>He's a promoter. His job is to sell it to people and he does a good job doing it. I think asking people to pay $40 to sit at home and watch a low quality sporting event where the result is not in doubt, is excessive. However, given people are willing to do that, it's fair enough to take advantage of it</p>
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<p>He's a promoter. His job is to sell it to people and he does a good job doing it. I think asking people to pay $40 to sit at home and watch a low quality sporting event where the result is not in doubt, is excessive. However, given people are willing to do that, it's fair enough to take advantage of it</p>
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<p>Even if you lie? to promote the fight</p> -
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<p>No, you shouldn't lie. It is always possible that Lonnegan simply misspoke.</p> -
For those in Aussie it looks like Fox Sports 5 is showing it live (and not pay per view).
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<div>I know a lot of boxing guys who just hate Lonergan and Duco. They hate the weak cards for top dollar, and the many circus acts they throw in that water down the sport.</div>
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<div>$40 for a crap regional card is just unjustifiable. The reality is, these cards are free-to-air quality. I just don't understand people who are willing to pay for it.</div> -
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<div>I know a lot of boxing guys who just hate Lonergan and Duco. They hate the weak cards for top dollar, and the many circus acts they throw in that water down the sport.</div>
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<div>$40 for a crap regional card is just unjustifiable. The reality is, these cards are free-to-air quality. I just don't understand people who are willing to pay for it.</div>
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<p>UFC 197 - super card with mega star athletes is $29.95<br>
Joseph Parker vs Lonergans not defeated 18 fights guy (Which is a lie) is $39.95<br><br>
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<p>Parker is not ready for anybody in the top 10 , Hell im not even sure he is ready for anybody in the top 20.</p>
