Klitschko, Fury, Parker, Takam & Joshua
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<p>I would rate Joshua ahead of Parker slightly at this stage - Joshua has only had 1 test so far Parker has had a couple that have been ok (Sherman, Kali) I just think Joshua has performed well under huge spotlight-pressure- in front of huge crowds etc.</p>
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Quite often the punch that knocks you out is the one you don't see coming <br><br>
with no warning it's like being King hit <br><br>
More likely to go to sleep like that than if you see it coming <br><br>
It's a similar thing in contact sports like rugby when you see the hit coming you brace yourself when you get blind sighted it hurts a lot more -
Ali attributed his knock outs to hand sped over power <br><br>
When the brain doesn't register what is about to happen next , the surprise factor can be too much , particularly when already fatigued -
<p>Ive got a feeling Fury is going to lose to Klitchko in the rematch and all this is short lived , </p>
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<p>Although I think Klitchko is at the end , I rate his best better than Furys best , if he has that one big one left in him </p> -
<p>Inga Tuigamala's kid is fighting on the Parker undercard.</p>
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<p>He's 6'3", 117kg and 15 years old.</p>
<p>And he's fighting the 28 year old amateur heavyweight champion of Samoa.</p>
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<p>Go kid.</p>
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<p> :lol: :lol: :lol:</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11577509'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11577509</a></p> -
Aren't Inga and Tua cousins? Some good genes in that kid.
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Aren't Inga and Tua cousins? Some good genes in that kid.</p></blockquote>
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Yeah, sounds familiar. Pretty sure they're related to the Anoa'i clan as well (pro wrestlers, Yokozuna, Rikishi, Usos, Roman Reigns to name a few of the more recent ones).<br><br>
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<p>I see that Solomon Haumono has called out Parker. </p>
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<p>Considering BoxRec has him at 108 and Parker at 11, I can't see any upside in this for Parker at all unless he needs to fill a schedule gap.</p>
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<p>The rankings on that BoxRec site are interesting. A very complex points system that make the World Rugby one look like kindergarten maths but essentially one that tries to determine points based on opponents rankings and the decisiveness of wins (eg what round, what decision was). Also takes into account the opposition's opposition. So if you were to lose to an up and comer ranked below you who also then went on next fight to demolish someone well above you as well, you don't cop it so much.</p>
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<p>Anyway, for all the talk of Parker fighting bunnies, this seems to rebut that (comparatively speaking). He is fighting guys good enough to earn good points in this system. Is ranked 11 compared to Joshua at 16 (although that could be due to having 2 extra fights).</p>
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<p>Lining Parker up later in the year against someone like Erkan Teper or Luis Ortiz would seriously boost him up although, I daresay fights like that also need to fit into actual federation rankings to have effect.</p> -
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;">Don't let the youthful appearance fool you, he knows his boxing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;">He covers Parker a lot. Lots of up and comers in the Heavyweight division. Next few years are going to be exiting I think.</span></p>
<p> <br><a class="" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWjnpQf8jGGimqohpAP7e1Q">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWjnpQf8jGGimqohpAP7e1Q</a></p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="553762" data-time="1453414468"><p>I see that Solomon Haumono has called out Parker. <br>
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Considering BoxRec has him at 108 and Parker at 11, I can't see any upside in this for Parker at all unless he needs to fill a schedule gap.<br>
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People complain about Parker's record being against no-names, you should see Haumono's</p></blockquote>
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<p>The rankings on that BoxRec site are interesting. A very complex points system that make the World Rugby one look like kindergarten maths but essentially one that tries to determine points based on opponents rankings and the decisiveness of wins (eg what round, what decision was). Also takes into account the opposition's opposition. So if you were to lose to an up and comer ranked below you who also then went on next fight to demolish someone well above you as well, you don't cop it so much.</p>
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<p>Anyway, for all the talk of Parker fighting bunnies, this seems to rebut that (comparatively speaking). He is fighting guys good enough to earn good points in this system. Is ranked 11 compared to Joshua at 16 (although that could be due to having 2 extra fights).</p>
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<p>Lining Parker up later in the year against someone like Erkan Teper or Luis Ortiz would seriously boost him up although, I daresay fights like that also need to fit into actual federation rankings to have effect.</p>
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<p>It's not bad that Parker is fighting no names. I just find it interesting that some people are paying to watch Parker fight no names. Boxrec only ranks Bergman at 79.</p> -
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It comes down to selling Parker as a potential world champ and getting fans on board who want to be able to say that they were along for the journey. <br>
Most of these people also understand that they won't get great value for money if looking only for quality match ups. <br>
What makes a quality match up is some even competitiveness. You would be a fool to make all of your fights at that level not only because of damage to your record but from damage to yourself and you'd be burned out well before getting a chance -
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<p>It comes down to selling Parker as a potential world champ and getting fans on board who want to be able to say that they were along for the journey.<br>
Most of these people also understand that they won't get great value for money if looking only for quality match ups.<br>
What makes a quality match up is some even competitiveness. You would be a fool to make all of your fights at that level not only because of damage to your record but from damage to yourself and you'd be burned out well before getting a chance</p>
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<p>Being along for Parker's journey would have cost you $600 by this point, unless you go halves with mates. That's cool for people who can afford it and derive pleasure from watching it. I just don't get it is all.</p> -
<p>Honestly guys would it kill one boxing promoter to be truthful. I was just listening to Dean being interviewed on radio and he mentioned how great Jason Bergman was as a boxer and that he had gone his last 18 fighter undefeated. Obviously Dean wants to get the PPV boasted on sky because this is a flat out lie and id be amazed if Dean as a professional promotions company had no idea of Jason Bergmans record at all.</p>
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<p>Lets be frank Bergman is a punching bag who has lost 2 of his last 18 fights, that's nothing to be ashamed of but it was against questionable quality of opposition. Not only that of his last 25 fights he has lost 6 fights against guys struggling to be in the top 100.</p>
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<p>Joseph Parker is ranked on potential alone not on credential. Collecting ranking points via weak fighters is what most boxers are doing to get ahead these days. My understanding is Parker has made a top 10 ranking across the federations by not fighting one boxer in the top 20. He no doubt has talent but the glory days of heavyweight are dead. Even Wilder dodged Povetkin for Spilka, Fury will dodge Haye and the IBF was vacated to a fight between two plods which Martin won when he is no champion boxer of quality. New blood has not been quality blood. Tua had it way way way tougher on his climb.<br><br>
Take it as you want but stop feeding us bullsh@t Duco.</p>
