British Politics
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Revealed: How the salaries of striking railway workers are steaming ahead
Ahead of crippling walkouts, figures show that staff earn £13,000 more than nurses and are paid 70 per cent above the national average
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@TeWaio said in British Politics:
Revealed: How the salaries of striking railway workers are steaming ahead
Ahead of crippling walkouts, figures show that staff earn £13,000 more than nurses and are paid 70 per cent above the national average
The two sides don't add up. RMT union are saying they need a significant pay rise because of inflation. But their contracts already have inflation + 0.2% in in them, so therefore this should have already happened.
As Shapps said, railway industry given 16bln during pandemic, or 600 per household. So fuck 'em. I can work from home anyway. As can everybody else.
Apart from most labour jobs, which are the lower paid ... so the strike kills the poorer.
Selfish, self serving fluffybunnies. Let them strike forever.
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@TeWaio said in British Politics:
Revealed: How the salaries of striking railway workers are steaming ahead
Ahead of crippling walkouts, figures show that staff earn £13,000 more than nurses and are paid 70 per cent above the national average
Just read the headline and the bit showing up that saya railway workers, shock horror, earn more than nurses.
Comes down to demand I suppose. And what is important to consumers.
If it's more important people get to work they have more power to demand higher pay, then surprise surprise they get paid more.
Some perspective due there.
Having said that they're a cunch of bunts for striking when they do ... but again, the demand ...
Side tracking ... There's a fair bit of emotion around nurse's pay. Tugs on the heartstrings IMO.
Tend to think hospital orderlies get the shit end of healthcare worker's pay scales. Nurse's tend to be prima donnas.
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@booboo I had an argument with my left wing sister about this last night.
I genuinely feel sorry for nurses, they do get fairly fucked over when it comes to pay.
However, in this country they get free education & training, as well as getting paid above the average wage.
So the argument isn't totally one sided.
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@MajorRage I think the free degree courses are now finished?
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
@MajorRage I think the free degree courses are now finished?
Still going I think with no tuition fees. They have changed the £5k a year grant so part of it is means-tested.
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Ah. I’d only heard anecdotally that it had finished. Probably just some hyperbole coming from a biased perspective. Who’d have thought eh?
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WTF is going on here?
A theological argument between two factions of the Muslim world forcing UK cinemas to cancel screenings of Lady of Heaven movie
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Uh oh. Unbritish.
Yvette Cooper dubs Rwanda migrant policy 'unethical and profoundly un-British'
The Labour MP slammed the migration policy as 'completely unworkable, deeply unethical and extortionately expensive'
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@Bones said in British Politics:
Uh oh. Unbritish.
Yvette Cooper dubs Rwanda migrant policy 'unethical and profoundly un-British'
The Labour MP slammed the migration policy as 'completely unworkable, deeply unethical and extortionately expensive'
I can't say I agree with it entirely, but doesn't all this grandstanding just play directly into the people smugglers hands?
Either it's an open border and the entire world can come in without consequence, or their must be consequences for those that choose to come in via illegal routes.
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Well she’s clearly wrong. If it’s unworkable and extortionately expensive it is therefore profoundly British.
I have to say though that I am deeply uncomfortable with this strategy. I agree with @MajorRage that we do need to look at ways of discouraging illegal immigration and the racketeering that is now associated with it. I just don’t think this is an humane or workable option.
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This is worth a watch. It's an interesting point of view. Just wish he hadn't played the race card, as I don't think skin colour / eye colour has anything to with it (it could be me being naive).
Reasonably well handled by Piers, but think his comments around Farage were poor. Whether he likes it or not, a lot of people do get behind Farage, mainly because they see the endless immigration as the decline of British culture. And there is some truth in that.
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This Mick Lynch clown strikes me as an utter cockhole. On sky news this morning answering every question with "read the newspapers" or "look around me" then saying how all the unions should synchronise in order to bring the country to a halt.
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@Bones said in British Politics:
This Mick Lynch clown strikes me as an utter cockhole. On sky news this morning answering every question with "read the newspapers" or "look around me" then saying how all the unions should synchronise in order to bring the country to a halt.
Yeah, well it's going to work. They're all licking their lips in anticipation. There's not one macroeconomist amongst them, they just play the blackmail game. Simple as that.
I'm sick of hearing them blame the government. Honestly, it's like it's a national pastime here, see how much of your own misery you can blame on the government. Not yourself.
Railways get 16bln of government money, make profits and then can't appease their staff. They are undoubtedly stuck in a tricky situation, in that the unions have serious power to try to maintain jobs that aren't needed anymore, but that's their problem which they must solve. Reality is that it's the lowest paid they are screwing over. Most city workers can/will work from home, no problems. But what does the hospital orderly do? The construction contractor?
Yeah, they just get fucked on.
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@Bones said in British Politics:
This Mick Lynch clown strikes me as an utter cockhole. On sky news this morning answering every question with "read the newspapers" or "look around me" then saying how all the unions should synchronise in order to bring the country to a halt.
Yeah, well it's going to work. They're all licking their lips in anticipation. There's not one macroeconomist amongst them, they just play the blackmail game. Simple as that.
I'm sick of hearing them blame the government. Honestly, it's like it's a national pastime here, see how much of your own misery you can blame on the government. Not yourself.
Railways get 16bln of government money, make profits and then can't appease their staff. They are undoubtedly stuck in a tricky situation, in that the unions have serious power to try to maintain jobs that aren't needed anymore, but that's their problem which they must solve. Reality is that it's the lowest paid they are screwing over. Most city workers can/will work from home, no problems. But what does the hospital orderly do? The construction contractor?
Yeah, they just get fucked on.
I find it amazing that people have to pay for their own public transport to work. I've been here too long.
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@Bones said in British Politics:
This Mick Lynch clown strikes me as an utter cockhole. On sky news this morning answering every question with "read the newspapers" or "look around me" then saying how all the unions should synchronise in order to bring the country to a halt.
Yeah, well it's going to work. They're all licking their lips in anticipation. There's not one macroeconomist amongst them, they just play the blackmail game. Simple as that.
I'm sick of hearing them blame the government. Honestly, it's like it's a national pastime here, see how much of your own misery you can blame on the government. Not yourself.
Railways get 16bln of government money, make profits and then can't appease their staff. They are undoubtedly stuck in a tricky situation, in that the unions have serious power to try to maintain jobs that aren't needed anymore, but that's their problem which they must solve. Reality is that it's the lowest paid they are screwing over. Most city workers can/will work from home, no problems. But what does the hospital orderly do? The construction contractor?
Yeah, they just get fucked on.
This film explains everything
I'm All Right Jack (1959) - IMDb
I'm All Right Jack: Directed by John Boulting. With Ian Carmichael, Terry-Thomas, Peter Sellers, Richard Attenborough. A naive aristocrat in search of a career becomes caught up in the struggles between his profit-minded uncle and an aggressive labor union.
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"Grant Schapps can come to the table if he wants...I'm not particularly bothered."
WTF Mick?
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@Bones said in British Politics:
"Grant Schapps can come to the table if he wants...I'm not particularly bothered."
WTF Mick?
What, you don’t think they actually wanted this resolved did you???
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Aaaand the by-election caused by the resignation of tractor-porn MP Neil Parrish has seen the Tories lose a 24,000 majority to hand the Lib Dem’s a seat they’ve never held before. This is beginning to seem like the last months of poor old John Major’s last Government.
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
Aaaand the by-election caused by the resignation of tractor-porn MP Neil Parrish has seen the Tories lose a 24,000 majority to hand the Lib Dem’s a seat they’ve never held before. This is beginning to seem like the last months of poor old John Major’s last Government.
Good.
And good fucking riddance to Tractor Boy.
Lib Dems eh?
Labour are in a worse state than the Tories.
