Ultimate NPC: - Otago

shark

Without too much thought

15 Smith
14 Wilson
13 Ellis
12 Leslie
11 Timu
10 Brown
9 Kelleher
8 Randell
7 Kronfeld
6 Joseph
5 Ryan
4 Maling
3 Hayman
2 Oliver
1 Hoeft

16 Latta
17 Hotton
18 Meeuws
19 Timmins
20 Thomson
21 Forster
22 Alatini
23 N Evans (can cover 10/15, hence the midfield cover on the bench)

You have absolutely nailed it, 100%.

shark

Gordy McPherson and Richard Knight provided yeoman service in the 80s and very early 90s (I think both were in the 1991 NPC champion side still) but Maling, Ryan and Donnelly were all more talented, and Timmins was just a rock in the great Otago teams of 1993-1995.

shark

@macmanus said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@macmanus Hoeft, Latta, Coltman, Hotton, Levi, MacPherson, Knight, Blaikie, Joseph, Brewer, Pene, Foster, Bachop, Haggart, Ropati, Alatini, Párkinson, Mapusua, Laney, Cooker, Cooper.

Cumberland? Mika? Middleton? Brew? Nicholas? Kenny? Curtis? Rich?

macmanus

@shark There are many great Otago players.

ACT Crusader

@shark said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@macmanus said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@macmanus Hoeft, Latta, Coltman, Hotton, Levi, MacPherson, Knight, Blaikie, Joseph, Brewer, Pene, Foster, Bachop, Haggart, Ropati, Alatini, Párkinson, Mapusua, Laney, Cooker, Cooper.

Cumberland? Mika? Middleton? Brew? Nicholas? Kenny? Curtis? Rich?

Brew was a dominant player at NPC level for Otago. A possible smokey for the Naki side even.

Smudge

@ACT-Crusader said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@shark said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@macmanus said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@macmanus Hoeft, Latta, Coltman, Hotton, Levi, MacPherson, Knight, Blaikie, Joseph, Brewer, Pene, Foster, Bachop, Haggart, Ropati, Alatini, Párkinson, Mapusua, Laney, Cooker, Cooper.

Cumberland? Mika? Middleton? Brew? Nicholas? Kenny? Curtis? Rich?

Brew was a dominant player at NPC level for Otago. A possible smokey for the Naki side even.

I remember him looking great at Taranaki, coming south and being particularly average then pulling out a top-drawer performance against the 2005 Lions. That might be a slight rewriting of history, but I didn't think much of him in an Otago jersey up to that point.

Nepia

@Smudge said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@ACT-Crusader said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@shark said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@macmanus said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@macmanus Hoeft, Latta, Coltman, Hotton, Levi, MacPherson, Knight, Blaikie, Joseph, Brewer, Pene, Foster, Bachop, Haggart, Ropati, Alatini, Párkinson, Mapusua, Laney, Cooker, Cooper.

Cumberland? Mika? Middleton? Brew? Nicholas? Kenny? Curtis? Rich?

Brew was a dominant player at NPC level for Otago. A possible smokey for the Naki side even.

I remember him looking great at Taranaki, coming south and being particularly average then pulling out a top-drawer performance against the 2005 Lions. That might be a slight rewriting of history, but I didn't think much of him in an Otago jersey up to that point.

He always reminded me of the drawings of Greeks in the Asterix comics.

Oh, and ok when he moved into centre from wing.

Smudge

@Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@Smudge said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@ACT-Crusader said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@shark said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@macmanus said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@macmanus Hoeft, Latta, Coltman, Hotton, Levi, MacPherson, Knight, Blaikie, Joseph, Brewer, Pene, Foster, Bachop, Haggart, Ropati, Alatini, Párkinson, Mapusua, Laney, Cooker, Cooper.

Cumberland? Mika? Middleton? Brew? Nicholas? Kenny? Curtis? Rich?

Brew was a dominant player at NPC level for Otago. A possible smokey for the Naki side even.

I remember him looking great at Taranaki, coming south and being particularly average then pulling out a top-drawer performance against the 2005 Lions. That might be a slight rewriting of history, but I didn't think much of him in an Otago jersey up to that point.

He always reminded me of the drawings of Greeks in the Asterix comics.

Now you mention it, you're bloody right!

Oh, and ok when he moved into centre from wing.

Yep. I recall a good chip and chase try from him for the Naki, but bugger all down the tramlines for Otago.

shark

Brew was garbage for Otago early on. It was only his last couple of seasons at centre when he started to come right and was just starting to dominate when he disappeared.

booboo

@Kiwiwomble couldn't squeeze Timu in? Could he play on the left instead of Cook?

booboo

@Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

Damn, some weird recency bias in this thread - Evans over Randell, Hunt bracketed with Kronfeld?????
No John Timu?

Ioane mentioned before Bachop?

Kiwiwomble

@booboo said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

@Kiwiwomble couldn't squeeze Timu in? Could he play on the left instead of Cook?

Could do but as I said, record try scorer counts for something and I think ioane has a long ABs carrier ahead of him competition permitting

Kiwiwomble

so apparently first NPC team gets dibs and goldie played for southland...so...Cooke and timu on the wings?

Kiwiwomble

so...my revised list taking some advise onboard

Kees Meeuws / Carl Hoeft
Dave Latta
Carl Hayman
Simon Maling
James Ryan
Kronfield
Randell
Byron Kelleher
Tony Brown
Paul Cooke
John Leslie
Timu
Bender

so 6. and 13.? Joseph and Ellis?

Crucial

@Kiwiwomble said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

so...my revised list taking some advise onboard

Kees Meeuws / Carl Hoeft

Dave Latta

Carl Hayman

Simon Maling

James Ryan

Kronfield

Randell

Byron Kelleher

Tony Brown

Paul Cooke

John Leslie

Timu

Bender

so 6. and 13.? Joseph and Ellis?

That was my thought when I saw the gaps

Kiwiwomble

@Crucial i was just starting to wonder about someone like Thomson at 6, more games for the AB's means he's better?

dogmeat

I'd put Randell at 6 and have Pene at 8. I know Taine played well at 8 for Otago but he always looked like a 6 to me. carved it up there for AB's too

Kiwiwomble

@dogmeat me too but after my original post people seemed to list him as an 8 more often

Bovidae

@dogmeat said in Ultimate NPC: - Otago:

I'd put Randell at 6 and have Pene at 8.

Yeah, I mentioned that at the start of the thread. Some wanted to move Randell to no.8 so that Joseph was at 6.

dogmeat

6 Randell / 8 Pene is significantly better than 6 Joseph / 8 Randell and also gives your team a much better chance of finishing the match with 15 players

The Silver Fern

Ultimate NPC: - Otago