'Super Rugby' 2021
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A Pasifika franchise based in Auckland sends a message (to me) that NZers of PI origin are not really even expected to be Aucklanders?
I'm a honky, maybe I'm too sensitive. London Irish etc exists. Although on the flip side in soccer Sydney Croatia and Melbourne Hellenic etc got their heritage stripped in the late NSL days. I'm more influenced by that. But none of these examples are creating 2 teams in one city, they were just one of a proliferation of clubs in those cities.
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@Rapido You’ve got London Irish, London Welsh, it’s pretty common in big metro cities to have sides that are around outside cultures. But they are mostly (all?) just names.
I agree that a Pacific Side needs to be in the pacific, otherwise it is just a drain on our depth and a glorified 6th NZ (or Oz) team.
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maybe the Pacific team should be based in the pacific except for maybe a blues game where they could play in auckland, purely because they might get a huge crowd? one home game played away like the saders and chiefs did
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Pacific Islanders in Auckland already have a Super Rugby team to support; the Blues.
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@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Pacific Islanders in Auckland already have a Super Rugby team to support; the Blues.
i think the idea would be that, this year aside, the blues haven't had the fan turnout that might be expected for such a large population, both Pacific Islanders and non, and this might be a way to attract those that haven't been attracted before
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@Kiwiwomble People weren't turning up because they were sick of seeing the Blues snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Adding a less competitive team won't fix that.
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@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kiwiwomble People weren't turning up because they were sick of seeing the Blues snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Adding a less competitive team won't fix that.
i dont know for sure, but lots of other sports manage to get big turnouts for teams not doing well, "support you're team do or die stuff"
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Auckland based 'Moana Pasifika' Super Rugby team bid unveiled - but are Fiji on board?
A new south Auckland based group - Moana Pasifika - have launched a bid to become Super Rugby's much-vaunted new Pacific rugby team.
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@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kiwiwomble People weren't turning up because they were sick of seeing the Blues snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Adding a less competitive team won't fix that.
i dont know for sure, but lots of other sports manage to get big turnouts for teams not doing well, "support you're team do or die stuff"
That doesn't change my point.
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@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kiwiwomble People weren't turning up because they were sick of seeing the Blues snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Adding a less competitive team won't fix that.
i dont know for sure, but lots of other sports manage to get big turnouts for teams not doing well, "support you're team do or die stuff"
That doesn't change my point.
doesn't it? you said that the fans might have stopped coming because they were sick of the blues loosing, i was saying it might not have been that but they just didn't feel a connection to the team and a Pacific team might be more attractive to them regardless of results
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@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kiwiwomble People weren't turning up because they were sick of seeing the Blues snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Adding a less competitive team won't fix that.
i dont know for sure, but lots of other sports manage to get big turnouts for teams not doing well, "support you're team do or die stuff"
That doesn't change my point.
doesn't it? you said that the fans might have stopped coming because they were sick of the blues loosing, i was saying it might not have been that but they just didn't feel a connection to the team and a Pacific team might be more attractive to them regardless of results
What's more likely? A team that had good crowds, with superstar players of PI ancestry suffers diminishing crowds over a prolonged period of poor results, or people just didn't feel a connection?
This looks like woke nonsense.
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@antipodean sorry, should have known better
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@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kiwiwomble People weren't turning up because they were sick of seeing the Blues snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Adding a less competitive team won't fix that.
i dont know for sure, but lots of other sports manage to get big turnouts for teams not doing well, "support you're team do or die stuff"
Force and Rebels perfect example of that, right...?
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@Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
As if NZ have the patience to make a Blues duplicate work. It's a 20 year+ exercise. You lot are already throwing your toys out the pram at having to play the Rebels and Force.
we don't want that team. Try to keep up
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@mariner4life said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
As if NZ have the patience to make a Blues duplicate work. It's a 20 year+ exercise. You lot are already throwing your toys out the pram at having to play the Rebels and Force.
we don't want that team. Try to keep up
Nor do we want the other two.
If player numbers increase and the quality is there - then add an additional team. Until then, no.
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Well, I for one do want a 'duplicate' Blues team (North Auckland). As well as a Lower NI team, and a split Chiefs team.
I want an 8 team domestic pro comp.
I'm not in the camp of worrying about the diluting talent pool. I'm in the camp of wanting to give a crap about who the opposition is.
Crusaders would need to be weakened though. They are warming up All Blacks on the bench while my team has a couple of subs I've never even heard of.
