Coronavirus - Australia
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(fuck knows why it's not all outsourced to the philipines).
Or India.
I don't get it either. Then I see some of the code they write, because it ends up in my lap to "support" and it is fucking shit.
There's a reason some companies advertise onshore call centres as a benefit.
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our off shore is in poland....i interviewed most of my team over there and they are smarter than me and most of my team in Aus....mostly chicks too...wonder if any of them are on here
i might drop the term fluffy bunny into our next meeting and see if any of them clicks
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life in saying that though...i have had people in my team tell me they dont want to come back to the office because when they work from home they can cook, and do washing, take breaks, go for a run etc...ie...not fucking working
@voodoo i'll send up your bat signal on this one
i hate work from home. Home is for home, not work. I also lack the self discipline. I would be even less productive than i am here.
The WFH thing is a fucking nightmare from a management perspective. I fucking hate it. And it's making people even more shut in
Fucking COVID
I'm here! Sitting in my dungeon, working away, in between checking into the Fern of course
I'm a mix-it-up guy, much like @nzzp . We have a small immediate team of 5, and we all do 2-3 days in/out. We recently mandated Wednesday as a compulsory day in the office so we can connect on stuff, then most of are there Tuesday also.
There is zero doubt that for us as a team, being in the office has benefits. We chat more off-the-cuff, bounce ideas, relationships develop better etc. But it's also a massive pain the arse when you want to do a consolidated block of work that requires concentration unless you lock yourself in a meeting room. And I'll cut the next bitch that asks me a question or tries to give me an update on something while I'm eating my breakfast or lunch.
I have to say, I look forward to both options when they roll around - by Tuesday I'm ready to get into the big smoke and feel the energy of the office and the city in general - and btw, the Sydney CBD is absolutely buzzing again. But by Thursday/Friday, I Iove waking up know there is no commute and I can stay in my undies all day.
Am I overall as productive as if I was 5 days in the office? Probably not if I am honest. Even the off-hours I do, I would probably still do if I spent the day in the city.
But I am happier - and as every millennial knows, it's our god-given right as a citizen of the lucky country to be happy 100% of the time.
As for sick days, other than my covid bout where I was a bit sweaty for a few days, I haven't been sick in like 15 years. I credit an intake of red meat and red wine at about 500% of recommended daily dose for that.
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what a ridiculously content fluffybunny
fuck you
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@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life ... huge blow outs on jobs thats can directly be blamed on things like not being able to quick ask a question from the person next too you, or standing around the same screen to explain a problem
Ah. You mean "all those fluffybunnies who come up to my desk and interrupt me with something that could have been done in an email, while I'm trying to solve actual problems through complex and brilliant code".
FUCK going into the office. The only benefit is the hot chicks and decent coffee. And my coffee machine goes alright.
The hot chicks factor is offset egregiously by having to put on long pants.
I get that some people need the social contact, and particularly those who are herding idiots need to have said idiots in their presence. I understand @mariner4life for example as a people-intensive business.
That aside, the people in corporate crying for it most loudly appear to be those with signficant investments in commercial real estate, or middle managers who have realised their entire job is meetings for the sake of meetings, not actual productive work.
I worked from home almost the entirety of the period Mar 2020 through to the end of 2022 and have only periodically visited client sites this year (mainly to be seen).
I love it, although I must admit missing leaving work after dusk to grab a meal and a drink or two with colleagues/ clients. And there aren't as many hot grads on a Friday night around here. But I've saved a fortune as a result!
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Am I overall as productive as if I was 5 days in the office? Probably not if I am honest. Even the off-hours I do, I would probably still do if I spent the day in the city.
I reckon, bang for buck, I'm far more productive, and I do less hours.
So I don't have to suppress the the urge to call people fluffybunnies to their face. I can mute my video call and do that
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@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
(fuck knows why it's not all outsourced to the philipines).
Or India.
I don't get it either. Then I see some of the code they write, because it ends up in my lap to "support" and it is fucking shit.
There's a reason some companies advertise onshore call centres as a benefit.
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And plenty of organisations out source, realise it doesn't work, bring back in house, things go well, new board, share holders want thier pound of flesh, hey, let's out source...
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I prefer working in the office and not because of face to face meetings. Most meetings are pointless exercises in make work and actually hinder proper communication.
I already do too much work at home even when I'm not WFH. At least when I'm in the office I suddenly realise everyone else has long gone and it is time to leave.
However I'm not against WFH as a concept. I'm fortunate in that most of the roles here are dictated by transactions so it's really easy and immediate to identify people who are slacking off. Recruitment wise we have missed out on candidates because they wanted to be able to WFH a lot. I'm not sure they have been any great loss...
Covid here is definitely on the increase. We are running into potential issues with people with limited leave not wanting to have to stay home.
I'm pretty sure I got it myself last month in Malaysia but as I was then travelling to Singapore I didn't test as wanted to be able to say I hadn't tested +. By time got back to NZ was negative.
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I feel for grads and people in their 20s. I loved being at work and the social aspect that came with it - impromptu drinks and things of that nature. Allowed me to develop relationships and it's there that I basically made my career.
So now many of them have to work from their share houses instead of in the office? I'd hate that for so many reasons.
But as a mid 30s father of two, I love my two WFH days each week. Just for the time saving of not having to commute. I get an extra hour and a half to spend with my kids, help my wife, do daycare drop/pick up etc. And I can get dinner started or hang the washing out as needed.
Am I as productive? Probably not but I make up for that when I'm in the office Tues-Thurs. So I think it all balances out.
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@barbarian said in Coronavirus - Australia:
I get an extra hour and a half to spend with my kids
you'll get over that
