Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Aus have closed borders to NZ for at least 72 hours.
Had a mate flying back today. Sat on the tarmac for 3hrs before they offloaded them.
Guess thats better than taking off, only to be told you're into 14 days hotel quarantine when you land.
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@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I'm completely flabbergasted that NZ allows this. The sacrifices made by so many to eliminate this thing, and they allow this sort of unnecessary stuff? Its beyond belief. Shared elevators, guests allowed to
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@voodoo I didn't read anywhere in the article that they share elevators; only that there may be a queue in the elevator lobby (physically distanced). Passing each other in hallways, what's wrong with that, if they keep the right physical distance and wear masks? There aren't congregations outside. I've seen quite a few people posting on social media from a MIQ and usually there are only a few people in an exercise area at the same time and they keep their distance. And there's supervision to make sure they do.
Or is this just a wind-up? I can never tell.
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@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo I didn't read anywhere in the article that they share elevators; only that there may be a queue in the elevator lobby (physically distanced). Passing each other in hallways, what's wrong with that, if they keep the right physical distance and wear masks? There aren't congregations outside. I've seen quite a few people posting on social media from a MIQ and usually there are only a few people in an exercise area at the same time and they keep their distance. And there's supervision to make sure they do.
Or is this just a wind-up? I can never tell.
Not a wind up at all.
You're right it doesn’t say sharing elevators, just mentions less than ideal sanitising of them. My bad. But still, you're now relying on people to use hand sanitiser every time - and to take it to the n'th degree, if we trust people to do that, then why use hotel quarantine at all, can't we trust them to self isolate?
That whole MIQ setup could be any office building in Aus or NZ. It should not be the way a MIQ Hotel operates.
Is there a risk of sharing hallways or courtyards? Of course!
Then why would you let quarantined people move around this way?
The bloke in the article says ""I think that makes a lot of sense because there are times where you just happen to pass someone in the hallway or outside in the recreation area." .
He's absolutely right. Why should people who have been quarantined for 14 days, be able to interact in this way?
Its such an easy fix, and its such a clearly obvious point of weakness.
Makes no sense to me.
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Well, from a purely personal pov, this sucks. I'm never going to be able to convince my wife to go back to NZ while MIQ continues. This shows that you may be completely COVID free and end up getting it at MIQ and once my wife worked that out, she was like 'forget us paying $4000 to be locked up, and then we're at higher risk of getting the virus'.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@gt12 she doesn't have to leave the room.
Just leave the aircon off and accept no food delivery?
Sounds fun
The odds of getting it from food are tiny. Not a good time of year for no air con, but by April or so, that should be fine.
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@voodoo That sounds like what my brother described. I don't think the lift is an issue. They sanitise before and after using the lift. You cannot realistically expect the entire lift to be sanitised every time it is used.
This seems like a significant improvement on how it was a few months ago and a reasonable compromise between concern for public health and trying to make the experience as comfortable as possible.
My position is that the border will always leak. It is inevitable which is why fucktards should use the tracing app all the time not go into a mindless panic when we get a case.
All the media complaints about long queues at testing stations triggers me. Do you have symptoms? No. Were you at one of the named premises around the time the confirmed case was there? No. Then why the fuck are you clogging the system possibly preventing someone who has caught COVID from getting tested. Go. Fuck off and buy toilet rolls from Countdown. Retards!!
Given NZ MIQ has proven no more leaky that the Oz version, which has much more stringent controls, I am cautiously OK with the process but am watching the results of the Pillman investigation closely
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
All the media complaints about long queues at testing stations triggers me. Do you have symptoms? No. Were you at one of the named premises around the time the confirmed case was there? No. Then why the fuck are you clogging the system possibly preventing someone who has caught COVID from getting tested. Go. Fuck off and buy toilet rolls from Countdown. Retards!!
Yup!!
Not to mention then moaning about the delay, get a bit of perspective people, whats going on in the rest of the world?
Sure it aint perfect, but c'mon!!
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just seen a post on FB from one of the shops the lady visited, saying all thier staff have tested negative apart from one who was tested later so still waiting on result.
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@dogmeat my point about about the lift is that you're now relying on people to sanitise before/after. The whole premise behind MIQ is that we don't trust ppl to self-isolate at home isn't it? So why do we lock them in a hotel but then allow them to move around? Its just a weak point that doesn't need to exist.
On the testing stations, we have the opposite right now in NSW - test numbers are way down and the Gov pleads with us every day to go get tested. Its bloody annoying! We have all been tested, and none of us are sick - why the hell would we go to what is probably the most likely place to catch the bloody thing for another test!
@Godder sure, catching something from food handling might be a low %. But it ain't zero. My wife caught a cold in her MIQ stay here in Sydney - 6 months of Covid-free in NZ, only to get sick in the bloody hotel here! Only way she could have caught it is through aircon or food delivery because she wasn't even allowed out to exercise! That lurgy cost her an extra swab up the brain on Day 8 or so 😬
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Pretty sure these 'close contacts' are people in some of the shops she went to who served her.
Covid Response Minister Chris Hipkins has shared some "pretty encouraging news" this morning.
He's given an update online saying that 14 of the close contacts of the Northland community case have tested negative.
The results of three more close contacts are still pending.
This comes after Hipkins saying yesterday, that two close contacts of the woman's - her husband and hairdresser - returned negative tests.
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@Donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
What I’m curious about but definitely not complaining about; she has the South African version which is apparently more infectious, after leaving an MIQ stay, but close contacts are all testing negative. Unexpectedly good news at this stage?
How close did she have to get to contract it, and where was hubby???
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@canefan supposedly in the car with her on her travels.
Plus her hairdresser as well when she had a hair cut.
I saw a comment online that her symptoms were more fevers and shakes than coughing, whihc reduces the likely spread.
But I think it does seem promising that a contact as close as the husband has tested negative.
edit: a guy I know who was at the cafe she was at immediately after she left has tested negative
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So no new community cases today, hope it continues..
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo That sounds like what my brother described. I don't think the lift is an issue. They sanitise before and after using the lift. You cannot realistically expect the entire lift to be sanitised every time it is used.
This seems like a significant improvement on how it was a few months ago and a reasonable compromise between concern for public health and trying to make the experience as comfortable as possible.
My position is that the border will always leak. It is inevitable which is why fucktards should use the tracing app all the time not go into a mindless panic when we get a case.
> All the media complaints about long queues at testing stations triggers me. Do you have symptoms? No. Were you at one of the named premises around the time the confirmed case was there? No. Then why the fuck are you clogging the system possibly preventing someone who has caught COVID from getting tested. Go. Fuck off and buy toilet rolls from Countdown. Retards!!
Given NZ MIQ has proven no more leaky that the Oz version, which has much more stringent controls, I am cautiously OK with the process but am watching the results of the Pillman investigation closely
Some of the posts in the GOM thread ain’t got shit on this.....I love it !!!!