England v Wales
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@Siam said in England v Wales:
@nzzp said in England v Wales:
@mooshld said in England v Wales:
Just a quick straw poll, to see if I am the exception. Anyone here have a close friend who tries to touch their penis?
Maybe its an english thing? I have never had a friend who liked to do that to people.
Sir JK on the Breakdown said it happened to him all the time, and he did it to his close mates.
I think I saw every test match JK played, I can't remember seeing that " all the time", or is this another situation where context doesn't matter?
As with Moody above he wass talking about rugby related areas, like changing rooms, training, etc
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@Kirwan yeah mate, but this case is a different situation with probable retaliation consequences. To apply what happens in a test match ( or any rugby match) to normal life is pretty disingenuous.
Wanking would be permissible following that rationale.
This is simply an opportunity to redraw the lines of acceptability in rugby, whatever the outcome. Not the end of the world, just a small spot fire to deal with and move on
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@mooshld not for me, but there were 2 guys in our team who used to give one another a flick or a squeeze, always got thier nuts out during drinks (well one more so than the other)...both married, generally respectable humans now, but on the lash during rugby season, animals!
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@Siam said in England v Wales:
@Kirwan yeah mate, but this case is a different situation with probable retaliation consequences. To apply what happens in a test match ( or any rugby match) to normal life is pretty disingenuous.
Wanking would be permissible following that rationale.
This is simply an opportunity to redraw the lines of acceptability in rugby, whatever the outcome. Not the end of the world, just a small spot fire to deal with and move on
Bang on.
Another thing to remember here though is that AWJ immediately reacted in a 'WTF' manner. That kind of dismisses all theory of 'having a laff'. Unwelcome groping is unwelcome groping.
I pat the missus on the bum all the time and she has no problem with it. I don't think I'd try it on anyone else though.
As said above. It just needs reiterating that playing rugby doesn't afford you the right to break normal conventions. Marler's problem is that he gets in trouble a fair bit so will get very little leniency. -
@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
I wonder how Vinnie Jones and Gazza feel about all this?
Why? 32 years ago? Hardly comparable at all. Lots went down 32 years ago that has been weeded out now.
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@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
I wonder how Vinnie Jones and Gazza feel about all this?
Why? 32 years ago? Hardly comparable at all. Lots went down 32 years ago that has been weeded out now.
I daresay that incident would certainly be treated differently now.Because they are probably shaking their heads at the big deal made from a little 'boop' on the ole fulla.
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@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
I wonder how Vinnie Jones and Gazza feel about all this?
Why? 32 years ago? Hardly comparable at all. Lots went down 32 years ago that has been weeded out now.
I daresay that incident would certainly be treated differently now.Because they are probably shaking their heads at the big deal made from a little 'boop' on the ole fulla.
You mean a couple of old blokes going “back in my day....”
Gee, I wonder what Buck Shelford thinks about that French prop..... -
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
I wonder how Vinnie Jones and Gazza feel about all this?
Why? 32 years ago? Hardly comparable at all. Lots went down 32 years ago that has been weeded out now.
I daresay that incident would certainly be treated differently now.Because they are probably shaking their heads at the big deal made from a little 'boop' on the ole fulla.
You mean a couple of old blokes going “back in my day....”
No no, just because they are probably shaking their heads at the big deal made from a little 'boop' on the ole fulla.
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@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
I wonder how Vinnie Jones and Gazza feel about all this?
Why? 32 years ago? Hardly comparable at all. Lots went down 32 years ago that has been weeded out now.
I daresay that incident would certainly be treated differently now.Because they are probably shaking their heads at the big deal made from a little 'boop' on the ole fulla.
You mean a couple of old blokes going “back in my day....”
No no, just because they are probably shaking their heads at the big deal made from a little 'boop' on the ole fulla.
....and their little boop wasn’t a big deal? Still famous now.
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@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
I wonder how Vinnie Jones and Gazza feel about all this?
Why? 32 years ago? Hardly comparable at all. Lots went down 32 years ago that has been weeded out now.
I daresay that incident would certainly be treated differently now.Because they are probably shaking their heads at the big deal made from a little 'boop' on the ole fulla.
You mean a couple of old blokes going “back in my day....”
No no, just because they are probably shaking their heads at the big deal made from a little 'boop' on the ole fulla.
....and their little boop wasn’t a big deal? Still famous now.
Dunno if you've seen the two instances? I know which one I would rather avoid more
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@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo I still don’t get your point.
So far the list of justification includes Vinnie Jones (psycho), Gazza (drunk),Willie Mason and Piers Morgan (certifiable dickheads).I just don’t get the outrage and big deal being made of it.
I guess I’m not that insecure that I would fall to pieces if someone did that to me in a rugby game.
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@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo I still don’t get your point.
So far the list of justification includes Vinnie Jones (psycho), Gazza (drunk),Willie Mason and Piers Morgan (certifiable dickheads).I just don’t get the outrage and big deal being made of it.
I guess I’m not that insecure that I would fall to pieces if someone did that to me in a rugby game.
The outrage and big deal isn’t being made on here.
There are certainly some of us that don’t want it seen as an acceptable part of the game though.
Nothing to do with insecurities either. -
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo I still don’t get your point.
So far the list of justification includes Vinnie Jones (psycho), Gazza (drunk),Willie Mason and Piers Morgan (certifiable dickheads).I just don’t get the outrage and big deal being made of it.
I guess I’m not that insecure that I would fall to pieces if someone did that to me in a rugby game.
The outrage and big deal isn’t being made on here.
There are certainly some of us that don’t want it seen as an acceptable part of the game though.
Nothing to do with insecurities either.Neither is going in from the side of a ruck constantly. Also not a big deal
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@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo I still don’t get your point.
So far the list of justification includes Vinnie Jones (psycho), Gazza (drunk),Willie Mason and Piers Morgan (certifiable dickheads).I just don’t get the outrage and big deal being made of it.
I guess I’m not that insecure that I would fall to pieces if someone did that to me in a rugby game.
The outrage and big deal isn’t being made on here.
There are certainly some of us that don’t want it seen as an acceptable part of the game though.
Nothing to do with insecurities either.Video during rounds on social media of Joe Marler's hand all over AWJ's privates. Disgusting.
Not going to post the video. There might be kids on this forum. It is definitely NSFW.
Sexual assualt missed too
He could possibly also face a criminal charge for sexual assault?
It was a really fucking weird thing to do too. Like the boxer who bit the other guy's ear or the League player who stuck his fingers up the opponents' bums.
I hope World Rugby punish Marler and his team severely:
IMHO Marler should get a 6 months ban and made to have counselling before he can go on a Rugby field again. England should forfeit the match and be docked 12 points.
It's a sexual assault. Rugby won't be regarded as a credible sport for long if it allows grown men to grope other men without consent.
Think there's a big difference between a dangerous tackle or throwing a punch in the heat of the moment and thinking it a good idea to go over and start fondling another players genitals in full view.
the whole Marler thing creeps me out big time. Throw the book at him and get this nonsense out of rugby
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@Catogrande said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@Hooroo I still don’t get your point.
So far the list of justification includes Vinnie Jones (psycho), Gazza (drunk),Willie Mason and Piers Morgan (certifiable dickheads).I just don’t get the outrage and big deal being made of it.
I guess I’m not that insecure that I would fall to pieces if someone did that to me in a rugby game.
The outrage and big deal isn’t being made on here.
There are certainly some of us that don’t want it seen as an acceptable part of the game though.
Nothing to do with insecurities either.Video during rounds on social media of Joe Marler's hand all over AWJ's privates. Disgusting.
Not going to post the video. There might be kids on this forum. It is definitely NSFW.
Sexual assualt missed too
He could possibly also face a criminal charge for sexual assault?
It was a really fucking weird thing to do too. Like the boxer who bit the other guy's ear or the League player who stuck his fingers up the opponents' bums.
I hope World Rugby punish Marler and his team severely:
IMHO Marler should get a 6 months ban and made to have counselling before he can go on a Rugby field again. England should forfeit the match and be docked 12 points.
It's a sexual assault. Rugby won't be regarded as a credible sport for long if it allows grown men to grope other men without consent.
Think there's a big difference between a dangerous tackle or throwing a punch in the heat of the moment and thinking it a good idea to go over and start fondling another players genitals in full view.
the whole Marler thing creeps me out big time. Throw the book at him and get this nonsense out of rugby
Is it April 01 already?
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@MiketheSnow There are many examples of people being fools that's for sure - just try and buy a few sheets of bog roll.
As far as the comments on here regarding the Marler incident, the one I find funniest is the one about it being without consent. Does that mean if consent is given it is OK for blokes to touch one another up on the field of play? Will this be applied to blow jobs as well?
I'm thinking of dusting off my old boots and joining the local mixed rugby team. But knowing my luck...
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Always a good watch
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Marler given ten weeks. Banned until June: