Road Cycling
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Another hilly stage and Dion Smith gets even closer.
He was fourth on the stage, but the 3rd placed finisher (Rui Costa) got relegated, so Dion gets to stand on the podium of a Grand Tour individual stage. Not many NZers have done that - pretty certain none have ever won - not sure who else has come in the first three on an individual stage. I'm guessing Julian Dean probably would have somewhere. George had a 4th in the Giro. I think Jack Bauer got swamped when he nearly won at the TdF.
Dion was only a couple of bike lengths from the winner (Cort-Neilson). Roglic came second so picked up 6 bonus seconds and I think has locked up the green (sprinters) jersey. George sort of led Roglic out in the sprint so was briefly leading inside the last km - so probably NZ's most competitive stage!
Final mountain stage tonight.
Roglic with 45 seconds on Carapaz and 53 seconds on Carthy. Like the Tour - it's his to lose!
Also a test of my theory of whether they'll let George go up the road.
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A pretty exciting final mountain stage.
Dan Martin dropped away from the lead group leaving Carapaz, Roglic and Carthy to fight it out.
Carthy made a couple of feints, but Carapaz attacked hard with about 3km of the climb left and broke away.
At his peak he put 25 seconds between himself and Roglic. TJV had put Lenard Hofstede in the breakaway (the role I thought they might give George) and he was able to sit up and wait for Roglic and provide a bit of support for Primoz.
In the end, Carapaz made up 21 seconds on Roglic - but not enough.
Not sure what the protocol is on the final stage, but I think it will be hard to do much unless Roglic crashes or goes to sleep.
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And Roglic wins!
An interesting feature is that Carapaz has actually ridden the race 8 seconds faster than Roglic, but Roglic has collected 48 seconds of time bonuses compared with Carapaz collecting 16 seconds.
George ends up 12th - 14.04 down on Roglic. Not bad considering there were several stages where he had to sacrifice himself for Roglic and plenty where he was riding in support.
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@Chris-B said in Road Cycling:
And Roglic wins!
An interesting feature is that Carapaz has actually ridden the race 8 seconds faster than Roglic, but Roglic has collected 48 seconds of time bonuses compared with Carapaz collecting 16 seconds.
George ends up 12th - 14.04 down on Roglic. Not bad considering there were several stages where he had to sacrifice himself for Roglic and plenty where he was riding in support.
I really support bonus seconds and who is to say how Roglic would have gone if he didn't target podiums.
I much prefer seeing GC guys have to get to the front than winning a TT than sitting in a peleton with their team shutting down attacks. -
@Crucial Yeah - me too.
Some additional rewards for performing in the Stage racing.
Roglic also lost a few seconds of advantage on one stage when Dan Martin crashed inside the 3km mark and everyone was given the same time, when I think Primoz should have gained 3 seconds.
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And Froome finished in 98th, 3.5 hrs down on Roglic. In a nice touch, he was retrospectively presented with the 2011 trophy in a ceremony before the final stage commenced. It was also his final day as an Ineos rider, after 10 years.
Time will tell how successful he is with ISN next year. Odds are against him being successful, but he is a tenacious sod.
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@Chris-B said in Road Cycling:
Saw a guy in TJV gear riding towards me the other day and thought, that looks a lot like George.
Sure enough...
he was doing 6 hour rides on Zwift in the bathroom of his quarantine hotel. faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark that!
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@WillieTheWaiter said in Road Cycling:
@Chris-B said in Road Cycling:
Saw a guy in TJV gear riding towards me the other day and thought, that looks a lot like George.
Sure enough...
he was doing 6 hour rides on Zwift in the bathroom of his quarantine hotel. faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark that!
That's just disgusting. Nobody should have that level of mental capacity.
1hr on zwift and I'm mentally cooked.
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@scribe said in Road Cycling:
I did 2.5 hrs on a turbo trainer once whilst training for an Ironman (pre Zwift days). Never again. That was after reading about a Female pro who used to do all of her Ironman training indoors. Crazy play.
yeh I think i've maxed out at about 2 hours. Surprising the amount of pros especially triathletes who do the majority of their training on the trainer. I'd be about 80%.. so much more efficient, impossible to do decent intervals in an hour session in central auckland!
that female pro you talk about - that wasn't the woman who swam like a frikkin spaz was it? I remember reading an article on a female pro in the uk about how she trained all on the trainer for ironman - a while back before it became the norm.. and it showed her swimming, breaststroke kick with freestyle swim - craziest thing I've seen.. funnily enough her swim coach could see she was going to be a great athlete when she was sorted out and she was!
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never did more than 90 minutes. And i did that precisely once, and swore to never do it again. 1 hour, no more.
And that evil device has sat unused in my garage for 19 months now...
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@mariner4life said in Road Cycling:
never did more than 90 minutes. And i did that precisely once, and swore to never do it again. 1 hour, no more.
And that evil device has sat unused in my garage for 19 months now...
yeh.. I name my workouts after how I feel about them.. ha
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Just a casual 359 watt FTP there...
Nice work!
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Have a mate who rode 420 watts for 45 minutes in a zwift race last week. (Legit numbers, he has a wattbike so accurate)
He is a beast.
I ride quite a lot but jeepers those numbers scare me!
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Rankings are often a bit of a waste of time, but for what it's worth (as per that article) George is ranked 26th overall for road cycling. After those good results mid-year he's 16th in one day races and 54th in stage races.
3rd overall in Oceania behind Porte and Jai Hindley - which perhaps doesn't give enough value to winning sprint stages in Grand Tours (Caleb Ewan) and maybe time trialing (Rohan Dennis).
Then again, I mainly like watching guys suffering up hills!
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@Davesofthunder said in Road Cycling:
Have a mate who rode 420 watts for 45 minutes in a zwift race last week. (Legit numbers, he has a wattbike so accurate)
He is a beast.
I ride quite a lot but jeepers those numbers scare me!
wow that's off the hook? Hamish Bond was doing around 450 for 40 mins so that's outstanding. is he a big unit? i'm 6'3 north of a hundy so those numbers aren't anything special - especially if a hill gets involved! That's why I'm just doing track now - can be a fat bastard. I must be due another ftp test.. too farking hot tho!
Zwift is pretty farking inaccurate - nothing more annoying than doing a flat circuit and getting pumped - I get dropped and i'm averaging over a 100 watts more than people finishing in front of me. It is mentally skewed towards midgets. The draft is the worst, I'll be sitting on 350 and get pinged on the flat in a bunch doing only like 45kph.. whereas if i'm in a bunch on the road and I look at power I'm only doing high 200's... Still - good workout and after i get off the floor the beer fridge is only 2m away
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@Chris-B said in Road Cycling:
Rankings are often a bit of a waste of time, but for what it's worth (as per that article) George is ranked 26th overall for road cycling. After those good results mid-year he's 16th in one day races and 54th in stage races.
3rd overall in Oceania behind Porte and Jai Hindley - which perhaps doesn't give enough value to winning sprint stages in Grand Tours (Caleb Ewan) and maybe time trialing (Rohan Dennis).
Then again, I mainly like watching guys suffering up hills!
re: watching guys suffering up hills - that's why I wish they'd show more of the back of the race on those big mountain stages.. was reading a blog a while back and one of Ewans team mates was talking about how he'd farked up his TDF training and was getting dropped early doors on the climbs - him and another team mate just had to stay back with him and tow him around trying to make the time cut.. sounded bloody awful!