Highlanders v Reds
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Frizell really impressed me with some solid hits on D and he wasn't afraid to do the hard yards and showed some impact. I really hope he gets plenty of game time to build on his solid foundation. A Smith was good which is very promising, he must be using different toilets this year as last year his form really hit the bathroom floor.
I am really surprised none of the coaches can see the frailties of Li and he really does not suit the way rugby is going. The back three are becoming so important in the way they collect the high ball, read defence and cover space. I don't think a winger who can just outrun or muscle people is ever going to work again.
L Whitlock also keeping Rueben Thorne happy as I think he made it through the thread without being noticed.
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Uh two words. SET PIECE. Hillbillies need to work on their D, Reds appeared to slip / break tackles at will.Fucking Li came up out of the line countless times too, i.e why the Reds were flooding his channel. Coltman looking substandard - core role = scrum and LO son!
BFA had an off day. Frizzle impressed. A Smith was very good. J Ioane solid. Injuries to midfield may be a concern. In the end home advantage got them across the line. Little too close for comfort for mine. That is all. -
@Siam said in Highlanders v Reds:
@booboo banning words that functional people universally understood started this fucked up world. Word Nazis just further entrenched it 😁👍
Funnily enough, I've literally just had a post deleted, fuck knows why. It was one saying I agree with @booboo
Anyway, the issue is that people don't understand it. People literally think that knocking the ball down is an offence. We even have people saying that there should be a penalty if you try to slap a ball back and it goes forward.
How do we go about getting informed about why an innocuous post is deleted? And who actually is @Booboo_is_a_tool ?
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@Bones Well you guys have obviously seen more balls travel downwards at exactly 90 degrees, because any handling error without a sanction is invariably described as "back" or "backwards".
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@Siam said in Highlanders v Reds:
@Bones Well you guys have obviously seen more balls travel downwards at exactly 90 degrees, because any handling error without a sanction is invariably described as "back" or "backwards".
Again, in the context of a one handed failed intercept using knocked down is hardly a major crime against literacy.Or down...
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Reds:
@Siam said in Highlanders v Reds:
@Bones The ref's said it twice already in a half of rugby in chch.
Sigh. Nevermind.
Good, hopefully the adult rugby fans on this site won't be further subjected to this type of condescension:
"Anyway, the issue is that people don't understand it. People literally think that knocking the ball down is an offence. We even have people saying that there should be a penalty if you try to slap a ball back and it goes forward."
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@Siam said in Highlanders v Reds:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Reds:
@Siam said in Highlanders v Reds:
@Bones The ref's said it twice already in a half of rugby in chch.
Sigh. Nevermind.
Good, hopefully the adult rugby fans on this site won't be further subjected to this condescension:
"Anyway, the issue is that people don't understand it. People literally think that knocking the ball down is an offence. We even have people saying that there should be a penalty if you try to slap a ball back and it goes forward."What? How is that condescending? Weird and ironic.
I've been around enough people crying that knock downs should be penalties/cards, etc to completely understand the issue. I'm sorry you can't. How's that for condescending?
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Reds:
@Siam said in Highlanders v Reds:
@booboo banning words that functional people universally understood started this fucked up world. Word Nazis just further entrenched it 😁👍
Funnily enough, I've literally just had a post deleted, fuck knows why. It was one saying I agree with @booboo
Anyway, the issue is that people don't understand it. People literally think that knocking the ball down is an offence. We even have people saying that there should be a penalty if you try to slap a ball back and it goes forward.
How do we go about getting informed about why an innocuous post is deleted? And who actually is @Booboo_is_a_tool ?
It was a test when a mod was trying something out ... can't even remember what ... I'll give you two guesses which mod that might have been ...
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@Bones I'm sure they appreciate you advising them on the correct vernacular when describing a deliberate knock down in a failed intercept yellow card scenario, (the inference would surely be that it traveled forward)let alone reminding them that there is no sanction for a knock down that travels backwards from the hand
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@Siam said in Highlanders v Reds:
@Bones I'm sure they appreciate you advising them on the correct vernacular when describing a deliberate knock down in a failed intercept yellow card scenario, (the inference would surely be that it traveled forward)let alone reminding them that there is no sanction for a knock down that travels backwards from the hand
I get thank you cards all the time. Nevermind though, since you seem determined to misunderstand it seems there'll be plenty more opportunities for cards for me. A knock down isn't against any laws, a deliberate knock on is. I'm sure it's fine if everyone just calls it a knock down and then screams for penalties/yellow cards though. Clear as mud.
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@Bones and there it is, an explanation on a 20 year old rugby forum to rugby people that a knock from the hand that doesn't go forward is allowed.
Gee thanks, that's been bugging me for 50 years.
Every time this " knock down" pedantry arises is ALWAYS in the context of a deliberate knock on scenario.
Generally the central issue regards the appropriate sanction and after the first post it is assumed that everyone understands the ball was propelled forward by one hand in a failed intercept.
The context is clear. Factually, the ball went down ( they all do), pertinently, it went forward, otherwise it's fricken play on.
I can recall the threads where we discussed the interpretations of the severity of a deliberate knock down plague and the hand travelling backwards clause. Nobody misunderstood
the laws, even when someone said lineout tap backs, but many spitballed partially formed opinions.
Nobody didn't know a knock on. Or an overlapI'm politely and gently pushing back on an insistence that a one handed failed intercept with yellow card potential ( a context I've repeatedly referred to) cannot be described on the fern as a "knock down".
Calling posters out for it, when there has been no break down in communication, is bizarre.
Triggered? I'm not. I understand the nuance of the knocked down description and subsequent opinion.
"Deliberate" is heavily implied
Telling people what to say on a flimsy premise,
In my opinion...😶
Anyway, rugby is full of knock ons, knock forwards, went back, went backwards, tap backs, the odd straight downs but, I reckon, not many knock downs without a context.
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@chimoaus said in Highlanders v Reds:
Frizell really impressed me with some solid hits on D and he wasn't afraid to do the hard yards and showed some impact. I really hope he gets plenty of game time to build on his solid foundation. A Smith was good which is very promising, he must be using different toilets this year as last year his form really hit the bathroom floor.
I am really surprised none of the coaches can see the frailties of Li and he really does not suit the way rugby is going. The back three are becoming so important in the way they collect the high ball, read defence and cover space. I don't think a winger who can just outrun or muscle people is ever going to work again.
L Whitlock also keeping Rueben Thorne happy as I think he made it through the thread without being noticed.
Good point, but in his defence he was as active on the carry as I've ever seen him.
