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@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
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@dogmeat said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 He's been called out by Usyk. Tyson went all cave man in response. So why the fuck isn't he fighting the Ukrainian instead of Frank Bruno Mk II (only without the pantomime chops)
Usyk won’t fight until next year , so fury wants a fight in between
And puts to bed the notion that he's been ducking AJ
Fury ?
Who’s been saying that ? I thought it was the other way round ?
Depends who you listen to
Both been 'unable' to agree on date and price
Yeah that sounds about right.
But can’t see anything other than Fury stopping him to be honest
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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@dogmeat said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 He's been called out by Usyk. Tyson went all cave man in response. So why the fuck isn't he fighting the Ukrainian instead of Frank Bruno Mk II (only without the pantomime chops)
Usyk won’t fight until next year , so fury wants a fight in between
And puts to bed the notion that he's been ducking AJ
Fury ?
Who’s been saying that ? I thought it was the other way round ?
Depends who you listen to
Both been 'unable' to agree on date and price
Yeah that sounds about right.
But can’t see anything other than Fury stopping him to be honest
He'll 'moider' him
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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@dogmeat said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 He's been called out by Usyk. Tyson went all cave man in response. So why the fuck isn't he fighting the Ukrainian instead of Frank Bruno Mk II (only without the pantomime chops)
Usyk won’t fight until next year , so fury wants a fight in between
And puts to bed the notion that he's been ducking AJ
Fury ?
Who’s been saying that ? I thought it was the other way round ?
Going back some time before fury wilder 3 ,
They were in the process of making a fury v Joshua fight ,
Then the wbc arbitration ordered fury to fight wilder again or lose his title, so the Joshua fight had to be scrapped ,
Joshua fans were throwing accusations around that fury planned it all to avoid AJ or something like that , I never quite understood how they thought fury would be capable of doing all that .
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@dogmeat said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 He's been called out by Usyk. Tyson went all cave man in response. So why the fuck isn't he fighting the Ukrainian instead of Frank Bruno Mk II (only without the pantomime chops)
Usyk won’t fight until next year , so fury wants a fight in between
And puts to bed the notion that he's been ducking AJ
Fury ?
Who’s been saying that ? I thought it was the other way round ?
Going back some time before fury wilder 3 ,
They were in the process of making a fury v Joshua fight ,
Then the wbc arbitration ordered fury to fight wilder again or lose his title, so the Joshua fight had to be scrapped ,
Joshua fans were throwing accusations around that fury planned it all to avoid AJ or something like that , I never quite understood how they thought fury would be capable of doing all that .
This whole post sums up why boxing is so fucked.
Why couldn’t they have just kept things simple ?
I don’t know Fury from a bar of soap but he doesn’t strike me as someone who’d avoid anybody.
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@MN5 I probably left a fair bit out of it , there was a rematch clause in fight 2 if Fury won , Furys camp claimed Wilder didnt activate it in time and so went on with other plans . Wilder challenged that and took fury to the arbitration and won .
But you are right , the biggest challenge in boxing now is to get fighters to agree to terms , with there being different management teams and governing bodies .
The biggest fight in america right now is the potential fight with the two best Welterweights in the world Errol Spence and Bud Crawford and its been dragging on for years , they cant agree to terms, it brings back memories of Mayweather v Manny .
Fury has come out since and offered Joshus a 60-40 split , im waiting for Hearn to emerge now and say its not enough .
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I have it on very good authority that two dates in December have been pencilled in
Early December if it’s not AJ
Week before Christmas if it is AJ
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Latest from Fury's mouth
Wembley 26 Nov
or
Cardiff 03 Dec
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60-40 is pretty generous given AJ's recent fights?
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@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
Latest from Fury's mouth
Wembley 26 Nov
or
Cardiff 03 Dec
Excellent time of year from a NZ perspective. Sunday afternoon barbie and beers and boxing to watch ! Brilliant !!!
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@nostrildamus said in Boxing Thread:
60-40 is pretty generous given AJ's recent fights?
he is still a very big Draw though ,usyk has the belts , but this is still probably the biggest heavyweight fight out there as far as money is concerned , Fury knows that , 60/40 split in his favor is massive money , much more than he would get fighting Usyk on a 50/50 you would think .
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With all this going on , easy to forget Joe Parker has a big fight coming up with Joe Joyce ,Sept 24th
This is a great match up ,
Really liking the visible improvements in Joe since he has based himself in the UK , training under Andy Lee in Furys gym ,
Technically looking better , with more venom in his shots
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boxing's biggest issue continues
Tomorrow night Paul Gallen will fight, on the same night, Ben Hannant and Justin Hodges. And it's getting more press and the same level of credence (in the eyes of the casual) that a decent fight between people who actually know what they are doing will get. At least in Aus.
FFS Ben Hannant admitted he's done 12 weeks of boxing in his life, knows he is going to lose badly. But hey, it's a professional fight right?
And for the most part its the same dumb shit talk to try and sell it.Until boxing finds a way to disassociate itself from fucking youtubers and old ex-footballers being able to call themselves "professional fighters" it's going to have no credibility in the eyes of so many (over and above the problems it causes itself)
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@mariner4life There's no depth in Australian boxing. You're either world champion or someone the rest of Oz wants to see get smashed. So on one hand Fenech. Tszyu, or Green vs Mundine, or nothing. As a result, getting a belt in Australian boxing really isn't an achievement. Hence donkeys with an existing public image drives engagement.
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Gallen is pretty damn good for an ex footy player though it must be said. Tough and powerful ( not unlike how he was as a League player ) it would be interesting to see how he would have gone if he’d started much younger.
But yes the fact some of these guys are professional is a bit of a joke.
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One of my fondest childhood sporting memories and possibly one of the best all-time was the Riddick Bowe Andrew Golota II fight.
The grudge match rematch of epic proportions.
Come a few rounds in and it had descended into a mythical brawl the likes of which I've never seen. All technique, professionalism, maybe even higher brain function and basic humanity had deserted both men.
Two punch drunk fighters stumbling around the ring like a pair of drunks with their shoelaces tied together throwing haymakers at each other like they had 20kg dumb bells in their hands instead of boxing gloves.
Me and the old man were watching it laughing uproariously, it started as a professional boxing bout and went south at incredible speed into two men staggering around the ring throwing enormous hay makers at each other. I've never seen anything so funny in professional sport, even after all these years it brings tears of mirth to my eye's recalling the event.
Bowe won, how he remained standing I don't know, he took some incredible hits. I don't think he actually fought high profile after that again, pretty sure that fight ended his career, a few days on his speech was still slurred after the fight.
Golota went on to fight and lose badly to Lennox Lewis, I think the Bowe fight ended him as well.
Ahh the fond memories, boxing certainly is a sport like no other.
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@Windows97 said in Boxing Thread:
One of my fondest childhood sporting memories and possibly one of the best all-time was the Riddick Bowe Andrew Golota II fight.
The grudge match rematch of epic proportions.
Come a few rounds in and it had descended into a mythical brawl the likes of which I've never seen. All technique, professionalism, maybe even higher brain function and basic humanity had deserted both men.
Two punch drunk fighters stumbling around the ring like a pair of drunks with their shoelaces tied together throwing haymakers at each other like they had 20kg dumb bells in their hands instead of boxing gloves.
Me and the old man were watching it laughing uproariously, it started as a professional boxing bout and went south at incredible speed into two men staggering around the ring throwing enormous hay makers at each other. I've never seen anything so funny in professional sport, even after all these years it brings tears of mirth to my eye's recalling the event.
Bowe won, how he remained standing I don't know, he took some incredible hits. I don't think he actually fought high profile after that again, pretty sure that fight ended his career, a few days on his speech was still slurred after the fight.
Golota went on to fight and lose badly to Lennox Lewis, I think the Bowe fight ended him as well.
Ahh the fond memories, boxing certainly is a sport like no other.
Big Daddy Bowe was a tremendous fighter. Incredible record, just the one loss and that was to Evander Holyfield who he beat twice as well.
Not rated too highly in the annals of boxing history, then again it could be argued he didn’t fight many names…….
Never fought Lewis which was a shame, that would have been incredible and I think he might have had the goods to beat Tyson if they fought as well.
Andrew Golota had the talent to be a legend but was completely fucked in the head. There was some controversy over how he quit vs Tyson but apparently he was badly injured and hadn’t recovered ?
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It's on like Donkey Kong
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