Ireland vs All Blacks (2018)
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Wayne Barnes is a fine ref, he was shit in 07 but so we're the ABs for not having a plan B. And now have a plan B (and C, D, etc - see yesterday's change at around the thirty minutes mark), and Barnes is a good ref. After 'no offside' Poite, never seeing the offsides all game yesterday, I'll take Barnes any day. Ireland have a real bad record with him in charge too
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@machpants said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Wayne Barnes is a fine ref,
... but prone to the odd brain fart during games (quick throw ins, and final forward passes at Eden Park, for example)
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@nzzp said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Just a downer for y'all; remember Wayne Barnes is refereeing this Saturday
Remarkably am far happier with Barnesy than some random French dude who's only just learned the accidental offside law, and had to rely on TMO to know the actual offside law.
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@machpants said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Wayne Barnes is a fine ref, he was shit in 07 but so we're the ABs for not having a plan B. And now have a plan B (and C, D, etc - see yesterday's change at around the thirty minutes mark), and Barnes is a good ref. After 'no offside' Poite, never seeing the offsides all game yesterday, I'll take Barnes any day. Ireland have a real bad record with him in charge too
Was his brother in randomness Garces
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@beige-xi said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Wayne Barnes is a disaster for Ireland. I think he's refereed something like 14 Ireland games of which Ireland have lost about 10!
These sorts of stats make no sense at all. Doesn't take into account the opposition played or any other the many other factors that determine a results (injuries, weather, etc).
What happens if he's a "disaster" for both teams? Do we end up with a negative scoreline?
Smells like getting excuses in early.
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@beige-xi said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Wayne Barnes is a disaster for Ireland. I think he's refereed something like 14 Ireland games of which Ireland have lost about 10!
His stats for NZ are I think the worst in the modern era, but blowed if I can find them
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@beige-xi said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Wayne Barnes is a disaster for Ireland. I think he's refereed something like 14 Ireland games of which Ireland have lost about 10!
Didn't we have this discussion that Ireland's stars with Barnesy are similar to NZ's. Ask @Derm-McCrum. He'll confirm it
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@crucial said in AB EOYT 2018:
Wayne Barnes as Ref
NZ P16 W 10 L5 - 69% wins
IRL P15 W5 L10 - 33% winsSince Barnes started reffing tests the ABs have a losing rate of 16%. Ireland have a losing rate of 33%.
So he has almost doubled our losing rate and has doubled yours.
Pretty similar -
O'Brien out, broken arm.
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@mikethesnow is it bad form to "like" that post?
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Agree. Barnes has improved a heck of a lot. Probably leads the bunch that is a fair way behind Owens.
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@siam said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mikethesnow is it bad form to "like" that post?
O'Brien's replacement, Dan Leavy, was pretty much the best Irish player on the pitch against Argentina IMO.
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@mikethesnow said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
O'Brien out, broken arm.
Which means Leavy in.
Bit like losing a penny and finding a pound.
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