All Blacks v Springboks
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A few things learnt
1 BBBR is definetly missed
2 some of the younger players still have a bit of learning to do in high pressure games (Goodhue the exception)
3 high risk fast paced rugby is great but it is exactly that and some times the ball just wont bounce your way (literally) and sometimes the game may need to be slowed down
4 Beaden Barrett will miss a few kicks but we don't lose too many tests when he is on the park
5 Ben Smith is playing his best rugby, shame he seemed to be under utilised in the second half -
@chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:
http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/KickingStrikeRateHome?comp_id=573
According to these guys, Beauden was our most successful AB kicker in Super rugby this year.
Those stats don't take into account the difficulty of the kicks. What they could suggest though is that Jordie was taking the harder kicks given BB's total attempted was around 2/3rds that of Dmac or Mounga with Jordie making up the difference. From memory they shared the kicking a fair bit with JB doing exactly that.
What the stats clearly show is that Lima had a bad year kicking.
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@pukunui Yeah - but, the conversion stats especially aren't a bad guide.
What they do indicate is that usually Beauden would sink those easy ones he missed last night.
Apropos to very little - I can remember years ago seeing a snooker documentary where they got some of the top players to take something like a thousand identical and pretty easy shots. Steve Davis - who was the best player in the world at the time did significantly better than the next best guys. Would be interesting to see the same thing in a goal kicking contest.
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No one has mentioned how well ABs monstored Boks in maul on second half. Ardie's try came from more than twenty metres out.
Can't help feeling the BB thing is mental. Can remember thinking when we really needed conversion from sideline that he would slot it, and sure enough he did, bisecting the posts. That level of focus and I can't see how he'd have missed both the posters.
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@pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks:
No one has mentioned how well ABs monstored Boks in maul on second half. Ardie's try came from more than twenty metres out.
Can't help feeling the BB thing is mental. Can remember thinking when we really needed conversion from sideline that he would slot it, and sure enough he did, bisecting the posts. That level of focus and I can't see how he'd have missed both the posters.
He's had a weird thing of kicking sideline conversions, but duffing easy ones in front of the posts. Maybe too relaxed?
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Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
Codie Taylor was the best forward on the park in both tests.
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@rapido I guess he at least slotted in there when replacements were made...however that probably coincided with Goodhue tearing shit up.
Although, I am mildly impressed they managed to figure that Kolisi is an openside despite playing in 6. Seems many posters here can't even figure that one.
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@akan004 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Squire will miss the rest of the RC. Hope they bring in Akira.
What for? Don’t you know they picked 8 blindside flankers in the squad.
In all seriousness, Frizzell will be given further opportunity.
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I have a half arsed theory that Beaudy's kicking tee is way too high.
Looks like he's using the tee you would use with your driver, except he's playing a par three.
It just looks like the margin of error is way too high off such a high tee.
I haven't really spent much time checking to see what type of tee other kickers are using.
Regardless of that, his kick trajectory is wildly inconsistent, he doesn't seem to be sure if he's trying a draw or a fade or a straight kick trajectory.
One of the latter misses looked to me like his foot was way off where it should have been contacting the ball.
The drop kick palaver, short memory guys, short memory.
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
The usual media overreaction. Also not buying into this talk from many that we were beaten by a better team on the day. We beat ourselves really with sheer stupidity at times and of course Beauden's misses.
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@akan004 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
The usual media overreaction. Also not buying into this talk from many that we were beaten by a better team on the day. We beat ourselves really with sheer stupidity at times and of course Beauden's misses.
I must’ve missed the part when there were 30 guys in black jersey’s on the park.
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@akan004 you should have seen the English punters all over it with glee yesterday, that's the kind of thing that makes it really hard to support them even after living here ten years. Greenwood and Barnes were delighted.
Edit: just remembered they also declared the AB England match is a non event and the boks are the big game in the "autumn" internationals.
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@siam said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Lost to Boks at home because the antecedent of Don Clarke, Allen Hewson, Grant Fox, Andrew Mehrtens and Dan Carter ( to name a few) couldn't land kicks a 16 year old would nail!!??
The Boot used to kick ‘em long range, out of the mud, no kicking tee. With the toe of his boot. I guess by the time Fox was around they were using small mounds of dirt.
Beauden’s shitshow landing place kicks yesterday has me as vexxed and mystified as when Anton Oliver couldn’t throw into the lineout straight. Try some practice drills. All the tools and elements of the modern game are there. If you practice-practice-practice and still can’t find the greens and make your putts, maybe it’s time to find another putter, or spend some more time practicing.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks v Springboks:
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Why are people saying "if we'd started Mo'unga"? Did they not watch his first test start?
Probably because a Mo'unga-BB 10 - 15 combo could have worked better than the BB-JB combo?
I'd never have started Mo'unga in this game but I'd have preferred him on the bench so that BB could drop back to 15 in the second half and RM could play at first five-eighth.
Would Mo’unga have taken over the kicking? DMac and JB are better kickers than BB, and even with BB having a particularly bad night with the boot Read didn’t give the ball to anyone else.
That was the most inexplicable thing to me, where was the captaincy to adjust when something was going wrong?
That was I didn't get. It became pretty obvious early on BB was having a shocker from the tee, so why not change the kicker? DMac - or hell even get the pimply giraffe to earn his keep FFS!
