2018 Rugby Championship
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@dan54 said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
Yep it's just Jones being Jones,and by being a clever prick he is actually saying that this year 6N is best because they have teams rated 2-3-4 in the world, so he obviously is saying RC was superior when Aus and SA were 2-3 or 2-4 even.
Yeah - looking back, and excluding Argentina/Italy (rankings as of August each year) - the 2 competitions consisted of teams ranked:
2018 1,5,6 - vs - 2,3,4,7,8
2017 1,3,5 - vs - 2,4,6,7,8
2016 1,3,4 - vs - 2,5,6,8,9
2015 1,2,4 - vs - 3,5,6,7,10
2014 1,2,3 - vs - 4,5,6,7,8
2013 1,2,4 - vs - 3,5,6,8,9
2012 1,2,3 - vs - 4,5,6,7,9
2011 1,2,3 - vs - 4,5,6,7,8
2010 1,2,3 - vs - 4,5,6,7,9
2009 1,2,3 - vs - 5,6,7,8,9
2008 1,2,5 - vs - 4,6,7,8,10
... this was the first time he's been able to pull out this particular argument, and he certainly wasn't slow to do so. -
Living in U.K. It has to be said that the 6N has one incontestable advantage over TRC. That is how close the venues all are. It would be like having Oz, Boks and Argies playing out of Christchurch, Seednee and Breesbayen.
Means rugby weekends are very doable (and bloody good fun!).
Quality wise things are a step down. Jones (S) merely needs to compare the results of his fatherland in 6N (v. good) against those versus Blacks/Boks/Womabts (abysmal) to refresh his memory of the natural order! -
@pakman said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
Living in U.K. It has to be said that the 6N has one incontestable advantage over TRC. That is how close the venues all are. It would be like having Oz, Boks and Argies playing out of Christchurch, Seednee and Breesbayen.
Means rugby weekends are very doable (and bloody good fun!).
Quality wise things are a step down. Jones (S) merely needs to compare the results of his fatherland in 6N (v. good) against those versus Blacks/Boks/Womabts (abysmal) to refresh his memory of the natural order!Yep - and I think that's partially what @MiketheSnow was pointing out,
6N - the sheer spectacle and emotion of it, with 6 nations all so close, some bitter bitter rivalries, history of actual wars between them all... shits all over the "Rugby Championship" which sometimes feels like "well, we need to get some international rugby in too".
Saying all that - I'm still going to feel more enthused about watching NZ-SAfrica or NZ-Oz than England-Wales or England-France. -
@pakman travelling fans is a huge plus the Euro comps have on us...I cant imagine there'd be too many (if any) Kiwi/Aus/SA fans that would follow thier team around Super rugby,
Not sure you'd get many fans that would follow thier Int team through TRC either, maybe to SA or Arg as a Kiwi, but highly unlikely to go to both and to Aus as well.
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@taniwharugby said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
@pakman travelling fans is a huge plus the Euro comps have on us...I cant imagine there'd be too many (if any) Kiwi/Aus/SA fans that would follow thier team around Super rugby,
Not sure you'd get many fans that would follow thier Int team through TRC either, maybe to SA or Arg as a Kiwi, but highly unlikely to go to both and to Aus as well.
My mates and I who are still in NZ would love to be three hours away from an AB Bok away game or Argie away game. As is, it probably necessitates at least a week, and probably seeing a non-AB game to make it worthwhile.
I'm in London, but an Argentinian boys week has been mentioned in late night ranting over beers!
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Oh we're back on the 'Abs need a loss for the good of world, and NZ, rugby' train again
We had a two losses and a draw last year, that's enough for a while - thank you very much!
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I've no idea what Cully is going on about in that article. I still get butterflies in my stomach before every All Black game and I'm not even taking the field.
Although this fixture two years ago by half time we weren't watching the game, just having a cracking time.
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some are never happy:
Win too much, it's boring, we need to lose a game
Lose - fuck, sky is falling, fire them, drop him, prima-dona over paid sportsmen! -
@antipodean said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
I've no idea what Cully is going on about in that article.
Cully is a NZ-based Aussie so that has to be factored into the article.
Edit: I'll correct myself. NZ-born, raised in Northern Ireland but spent most of his working life in Australia.
A Wallaby win in Sydney would be the best outcome for the Bledisloe Cup and setup a must-win in Auckland. None of us Kiwis want that of course.
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@antipodean said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
I've no idea what Cully is going on about in that article. I still get butterflies in my stomach before every All Black game and I'm not even taking the field.
Fark, yeah, I'm really excited by this one. Re-watching our loss in BrisVegas to warm up - we had a moderate team then; Great to see Dane Coles there, but Lima S at 10, and DMac at the back was a raw combo.
DMac can create magic, but is developing fast I reckon and learning to pick his moments. Good coaching helps that shit
Edit: also some of the forward's work gives me a chubby. They were just smashign some gold jerseys out there like bogans smashing woodies on a Friday night
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@nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
DMac can create magic, but is developing fast I reckon and learning to pick his moments. Good coaching helps that shit
That is the thing people refuse to accept. They see DMac as unchanged and a massive liability. This couldn't be further from the truth.
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@hooroo said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
@nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
DMac can create magic, but is developing fast I reckon and learning to pick his moments. Good coaching helps that shit
That is the thing people refuse to accept. They see DMac as unchanged and a massive liability. This couldn't be further from the truth.
DMac was good against the French but then seemed to revert to type for the Chiefs. The Chiefs game-plan may have something to do with that though - he's probably better suited to a more structured game where he can pick his moments to try something, rather than always trying to create.
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@nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
I've no idea what Cully is going on about in that article. I still get butterflies in my stomach before every All Black game and I'm not even taking the field.
Fark, yeah, I'm really excited by this one. Re-watching our loss in BrisVegas to warm up - we had a moderate team then; Great to see Dane Coles there, but Lima S at 10, and DMac at the back was a raw combo.
DMac can create magic, but is developing fast I reckon and learning to pick his moments. Good coaching helps that shit
Edit: also some of the forward's work gives me a chubby. They were just smashign some gold jerseys out there like bogans smashing woodies on a Friday night
i just had a think, and i can't for the life of me remember anything about our Rugby Championship games last year. I don't remember the results, scorers, anything.
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@mariner4life said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
@nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
I've no idea what Cully is going on about in that article. I still get butterflies in my stomach before every All Black game and I'm not even taking the field.
Fark, yeah, I'm really excited by this one. Re-watching our loss in BrisVegas to warm up - we had a moderate team then; Great to see Dane Coles there, but Lima S at 10, and DMac at the back was a raw combo.
DMac can create magic, but is developing fast I reckon and learning to pick his moments. Good coaching helps that shit
Edit: also some of the forward's work gives me a chubby. They were just smashign some gold jerseys out there like bogans smashing woodies on a Friday night
i just had a think, and i can't for the life of me remember anything about our Rugby Championship games last year. I don't remember the results, scorers, anything.
the first half in Sydney where we put 40 points on the Aussies .... it was incrediballs.
The demolition of SA in Albany - 57-0??
plenty there after the Lions
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@nzzp Wobblies got up in Dunners? and were unlucky not to win after getting off to a flyer and then BB scoring pretty much on FT and then a tight battle in SA.
TBH I dont recall much form the Argie matches.
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@nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
@nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
I've no idea what Cully is going on about in that article. I still get butterflies in my stomach before every All Black game and I'm not even taking the field.
Fark, yeah, I'm really excited by this one. Re-watching our loss in BrisVegas to warm up - we had a moderate team then; Great to see Dane Coles there, but Lima S at 10, and DMac at the back was a raw combo.
DMac can create magic, but is developing fast I reckon and learning to pick his moments. Good coaching helps that shit
Edit: also some of the forward's work gives me a chubby. They were just smashign some gold jerseys out there like bogans smashing woodies on a Friday night
i just had a think, and i can't for the life of me remember anything about our Rugby Championship games last year. I don't remember the results, scorers, anything.
the first half in Sydney where we put 40 points on the Aussies .... it was incrediballs.
The demolition of SA in Albany - 57-0??
plenty there after the Lions
those were last year? well fuck me. I could have sworn they were the year before!!
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@taniwharugby said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
@nzzp Wobblies got up in Dunners? and were unlucky not to win after getting off to a flyer and then BB scoring pretty much on FT and then a tight battle in SA.
TBH I dont recall much form the Argie matches.
Fark, winning in Dunedin was awesome. Aussies should have had that one - it was a Lazarus/Winston Peters like comeback
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@nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
@taniwharugby said in 2018 Rugby Championship:
@nzzp Wobblies got up in Dunners? and were unlucky not to win after getting off to a flyer and then BB scoring pretty much on FT and then a tight battle in SA.
TBH I dont recall much form the Argie matches.
Fark, winning in Dunedin was awesome. Aussies should have had that one - it was a Lazarus/Winston Peters like comeback
oh yea! you know what i remember from that? not even the winning try, but the behind the scenes reaction shot from the Aussie Fox Sports panel
