Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens
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@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Gee Fiji were utter shit. Good for us for them to bring that in the gold medal game.
Not a big fan of 7s, particularly without the top players, but I enjoyed that.
What top players were missing?
You're kidding right?
What? I can't think of the top players missing, that's not far off our strongest squad.
Ahem. How about the Super roster? The major European club comps. That's what I meant by top players. I totally recognise they are different games that require different skill sets, but unfortunately the best rugby players on the planet are not there.
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@act-crusader Right on the money,it’s specialist sevens players you need,even more than so if you a world class play maker and something you can coach..Someone with out and out pace,example the USA sevens team.When Perry Baker plays they are a very dangerous team,when he’s not playing they are solid and no more.
Don’t need top All Blacks,besides who in their right mind is gonna give potential earning of around 250k to play for a NZ sevens contract ,potentially 80k
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@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@tim said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Even if you included XVs players then Damien McKenzie and Rieko Ioane would probably be the only certainties.
What?
There's no-one in that sevens squad who is in the top 150 rugby players in NZ.
Trael Joass isn't a first choice starter for the Mako$ and Knewstubb doesn't even make last season's squad.
What you've just said makes no sense at all... Unless you're talking about the Mako$ Sevens squad.
Seriously - you think Knewstubb is making the NZ Sevens team if Beauden Barrett decides to focus on sevens?
Joass is pushing out SBW?
What are you on about? SBW wasn't great at Sevens even when he mildly concentrated on it. Is Barrett playing Sevens? Show me how good he is at Sevens and I'll make a decision between him and Knewstubb.
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@steven-harris I suspect I've misinterpreted your take on the statistics.
95% for the NZ Women?
In my book, that's standing on the podium waving to the crowd!
Surely you're not suggesting a 5% chance for the Australian women?
I thought they were favourites!
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Gee Fiji were utter shit. Good for us for them to bring that in the gold medal game.
Not a big fan of 7s, particularly without the top players, but I enjoyed that.
What top players were missing?
You're kidding right?
What? I can't think of the top players missing, that's not far off our strongest squad.
Ahem. How about the Super roster? The major European club comps. That's what I meant by top players. I totally recognise they are different games that require different skill sets, but unfortunately the best rugby players on the planet are not there.
There's a super roster of Sevens players? Major European club comp for Sevens? Gee I had no idea they were hogging all those players. That's a shame for the commonwealth games.
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Thankfully I can watch it:
https://www.7commgames.com.au/live/49 -
@chris-b I thought the Aussie girls were the very hottest of favourites ,had them at 100% to win ,should used 1-10 barometer.,hey at the end of the day we have done the business.
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@stargazer said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
It seems we don't get to see the medal ceremonies and haka, so tweets with pictures will have to do:
One final black mark against TVNZs coverage to add to the thousands they incurred throught the Games.
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@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@tim said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Even if you included XVs players then Damien McKenzie and Rieko Ioane would probably be the only certainties.
What?
There's no-one in that sevens squad who is in the top 150 rugby players in NZ.
Trael Joass isn't a first choice starter for the Mako$ and Knewstubb doesn't even make last season's squad.
What you've just said makes no sense at all... Unless you're talking about the Mako$ Sevens squad.
Seriously - you think Knewstubb is making the NZ Sevens team if Beauden Barrett decides to focus on sevens?
Joass is pushing out SBW?
What are you on about? SBW wasn't great at Sevens even when he mildly concentrated on it. Is Barrett playing Sevens? Show me how good he is at Sevens and I'll make a decision between him and Knewstubb.
This seems to be entering into one of those twilight zone internet discussions - in my opinion of course.
In my view - the best 150 rugby players in NZ get selected for Super rugby. Then Sevens gets a bit of a pick, but there's quite a few who opt to play NPC. And once those guys are out of the selection pool Sevens gets to choose from the rest.
If we chose from our best players we would have bigger, faster, more skilful players.
That's my point.
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@no-quarter said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@stargazer said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
It seems we don't get to see the medal ceremonies and haka, so tweets with pictures will have to do:
One final black mark against TVNZs coverage to add to the thousands they incurred throught the Games.
I'm abroad at the moment, texted Mrs CF to record the 7's finals replays. Apparently there are none. What. The. Fuck. Sky would be playing the games over and over
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@chris-b Part of it is you don't get to 'pick' the players. It's not like the SR teams pick and 7s have to wait until they're done/ The players have a choice in it. But yeah if 7s were more money and respect than 15s, then BB would be playing it. But (thankfully) it's not, and the best 7s players (ie those that want to play 7s for whatever reason) are playing it and they're still a good watch.
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@steven-harris said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b I thought the Aussie girls were the very hottest of favourites ,had them at 100% to win ,should used 1-10 barometer.,hey at the end of the day we have done the business.
Yeah - somehow we've got our posts confused.
I'd have been happy enough with two bronzes and we've got two golds - miles against the odds in my opinion.
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@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@tim said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Even if you included XVs players then Damien McKenzie and Rieko Ioane would probably be the only certainties.
What?
There's no-one in that sevens squad who is in the top 150 rugby players in NZ.
Trael Joass isn't a first choice starter for the Mako$ and Knewstubb doesn't even make last season's squad.
What you've just said makes no sense at all... Unless you're talking about the Mako$ Sevens squad.
Seriously - you think Knewstubb is making the NZ Sevens team if Beauden Barrett decides to focus on sevens?
Joass is pushing out SBW?
What are you on about? SBW wasn't great at Sevens even when he mildly concentrated on it. Is Barrett playing Sevens? Show me how good he is at Sevens and I'll make a decision between him and Knewstubb.
This seems to be entering into one of those twilight zone internet discussions - in my opinion of course.
In my view - the best 150 rugby players in NZ get selected for Super rugby. Then Sevens gets a bit of a pick, but there's quite a few who opt to play NPC. And once those guys are out of the selection pool Sevens gets to choose from the rest.
If we chose from our best players we would have bigger, faster, more skilful players.
That's my point.
Looks to me like the best 150 XVs players get selected to play super rugby...
Where is the proof these players are better Sevens players?
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@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@tim said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Even if you included XVs players then Damien McKenzie and Rieko Ioane would probably be the only certainties.
What?
There's no-one in that sevens squad who is in the top 150 rugby players in NZ.
Trael Joass isn't a first choice starter for the Mako$ and Knewstubb doesn't even make last season's squad.
What you've just said makes no sense at all... Unless you're talking about the Mako$ Sevens squad.
Seriously - you think Knewstubb is making the NZ Sevens team if Beauden Barrett decides to focus on sevens?
Joass is pushing out SBW?
What are you on about? SBW wasn't great at Sevens even when he mildly concentrated on it. Is Barrett playing Sevens? Show me how good he is at Sevens and I'll make a decision between him and Knewstubb.
This seems to be entering into one of those twilight zone internet discussions - in my opinion of course.
In my view - the best 150 rugby players in NZ get selected for Super rugby. Then Sevens gets a bit of a pick, but there's quite a few who opt to play NPC. And once those guys are out of the selection pool Sevens gets to choose from the rest.
If we chose from our best players we would have bigger, faster, more skilful players.
That's my point.
Looks to me like the best 150 XVs players get selected to play super rugby...
Where is the proof these players are better Sevens players?
Everyone is in the same boat. All nations except Fiji prioritise 15s over 7s. Our best available 7s players just have to be better than everyone else's.
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@machpants Yeah. I was only disagreeing with Tim's initial assertion about who would make the team.
Trael Joass was in initially a XVs player in the Mako$ squad who couldn't make the starting XV. It's possible that miraculously he's among the 12 best sevens players in the country, but I'm inclined to think that's because almost everyone who has the chance focuses on XVs.
