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@nostrildamus said in Aussie Politics:
@booboo said in Aussie Politics:
@nostrildamus for sure. One Nation. Goes without saying. For interest though, what's he done recently?
Had a drunk, racist altercation in the middle of a Melbourne street at 3am? Like last night?
Disrupted a Pride parade by lying down in the middle of the street?
Attacked a women's rights event?
Fucked a bike leader?
I grant you those are spectacular, but someone who rails against immigrants and doesn't even know which country he is a citizen of (https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/high-court-verdict-goodbye-malcolm-roberts-you-wont-be-missed-20171027-gz9byd.html), not to mention his tenuous grasp on science (https://theconversation.com/one-nations-malcolm-roberts-is-in-denial-about-the-facts-of-climate-change-63581), got re-elected.
Not disagreeing at all.
Just, umm, Lydia Thorpe
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@booboo said in Aussie Politics:
@nostrildamus said in Aussie Politics:
@booboo said in Aussie Politics:
@nostrildamus for sure. One Nation. Goes without saying. For interest though, what's he done recently?
Had a drunk, racist altercation in the middle of a Melbourne street at 3am? Like last night?
Disrupted a Pride parade by lying down in the middle of the street?
Attacked a women's rights event?
Fucked a bike leader?
I grant you those are spectacular, but someone who rails against immigrants and doesn't even know which country he is a citizen of (https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/high-court-verdict-goodbye-malcolm-roberts-you-wont-be-missed-20171027-gz9byd.html), not to mention his tenuous grasp on science (https://theconversation.com/one-nations-malcolm-roberts-is-in-denial-about-the-facts-of-climate-change-63581), got re-elected.
Not disagreeing at all.
Just, umm, Lydia Thorpe
Remember she got elected on the greens senate ticket. Roberts got elected on the one nation senate ticket.
As Stealers Wheel once said: clowns to the left of me, jokers to my right....
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hello smart people
thoughts on the Feds move around the RBA today?
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@booboo said in Aussie Politics:
Lydia Thorpe.
How does someone so obviously disturbed get elected?
Greens. There's a bunch of them and by extension about 10% of the population.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Politics:
hello smart people
thoughts on the Feds move around the RBA today?
I think Australia is clearly going to be better served by the economic genius Chalmers appointing more unqualified ACTU people to determine monetary policy.
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Happy to see the OZ citizenship pathway finally get easier. I got here just after the change in 2001 and never bothered getting citizenship as it was going to cost close to 10k for my partner and I as the permanent residency is fucken expensive.
Now I think the cost is $490 so come July 1st I will have to pretend to understand waltzing matilda and somehow hide my hatred for the wallabies.
One other surprising stat was this;
"There are currently 670,000 New Zealanders in Australia on special category visas, including about 380,000 who arrived after 2001 who are eligible for citizenship."Is my math correct in thinking in the last 4 years 290,000 kiwis moved to Australia? That seems like a lot.
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@chimoaus said in Aussie Politics:
Happy to see the OZ citizenship pathway finally get easier. I got here just after the change in 2001 and never bothered getting citizenship as it was going to cost close to 10k for my partner and I as the permanent residency is fucken expensive.
Now I think the cost is $490 so come July 1st I will have to pretend to understand waltzing matilda and somehow hide my hatred for the wallabies.
One other surprising stat was this;
"There are currently 670,000 New Zealanders in Australia on special category visas, including about 380,000 who arrived after 2001 who are eligible for citizenship."Is my math correct in thinking in the last 4 years 290,000 kiwis moved to Australia? That seems like a lot.
Where do you get four years from?
FWIW subclass 444(c) for NZ Citizens from 2018-19 - 2021-22 there were 92,940 arrivals,, while in the same time period 78,100 left.
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@antipodean I was guessing based on 670,000 kiwis on special category visas, 380,000 of which have been in Australia for >4 years and eligible for citizenship, that leaves 290,000 with SCV that have not met the 4 year eligibility? Or are there lots that entered prior to 2001 and never got citizenship? Your stats make more sense, I was just wondering how they got the numbers.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
@chimoaus said in Aussie Politics:
Happy to see the OZ citizenship pathway finally get easier. I got here just after the change in 2001 and never bothered getting citizenship as it was going to cost close to 10k for my partner and I as the permanent residency is fucken expensive.
Now I think the cost is $490 so come July 1st I will have to pretend to understand waltzing matilda and somehow hide my hatred for the wallabies.
One other surprising stat was this;
"There are currently 670,000 New Zealanders in Australia on special category visas, including about 380,000 who arrived after 2001 who are eligible for citizenship."Is my math correct in thinking in the last 4 years 290,000 kiwis moved to Australia? That seems like a lot.
Where do you get four years from?
FWIW subclass 444(c) for NZ Citizens from 2018-19 - 2021-22 there were 92,940 arrivals,, while in the same time period 78,100 left.
Goodness that is a huge number of planeloads of 501 deportees, no wonder the crime rates in some parts of the country over here is skyrocketing.
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so that was a pretty hefty increase to the minimum wage. 8.6% is massive.
a huge hit to industries still battling after government covid responses
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@chimoaus said in Aussie Politics:
I will have to pretend to #1 understand waltzing matilda and #2 somehow hide my hatred for the wallabies.
Even in Australia
#1 is mostly forgotten and
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Must be time for our super regular rant at the "leadership" of this country
Another lift in the OCR yesterday. RBA determined to "smash household spending" by effectively making people too poor to spend money.
Of course they have one tool open to them so solve the only problem they are focused on, so rate rises it is.
Only rate rises don't work when you look at what is driving inflation. Rent, energy, soaring corporate profits. People need to live somewhere, people need to eat, and people need power (and that's ignoring how soaring energy prices influence the price of nearly everything we buy). So no matter how much you bump up peoples mortgage payments, they are still going to buy shit because they fucking have to!
And the older generation who don't have a mortgage, or have a smaller mortgage, are spending more than ever, because they've got a few years of pent-up cash and demand thanks to being locked in their houses.Higher interest rates, and builders collapsing everywhere then stops new houses getting built. The government is actively importing people to create the illusion of growth, and those two factors combined jam rents up even higher. So where does it end? where is the breaking point?
If property and rent prices continue to go up thanks to demand way outstripping supply, and energy prices continue to rise no matter what, how do you stop inflation short of just flat out killing a bunch of people?
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@mariner4life good rant bro. I think yesterdays hike was inevitable given the data that came out last week where year on year inflation increased from 6.3% for March to 6.8% for April. Whilst it’s nowhere near the 7+ we had in December, it was a spike that the RBA would say needs to be contained given the areas where the inflation was greatest and above the global inflation rate - food (7.9), housing which includes electricity (8.9), transport (7.1).
It’s a peculiar storm right now because the Oz economy hasn’t been like this before. You would think with 11 rate rises that people would be losing their jobs as firms tighten their belts but they aren’t. We still have very low unemployment and high workforce participation. Whilst it was clumsily delivered last week during a senate estimates hearing, Lowe is right that in an already high inflation environment when people have income they will spend and continue to fuel the inflation fire.
Add to that there are lots of jobs being advertised in the marketplace and people have money to spend (and are spending!). People want to continue to live the way they were living under low inflation and low interest rate periods.
I don’t agree with some of the commentary that the minimum wage decision has played a part in yesterdays decision - impact of the wage increase hasn’t even started (1 July). But the budget does play a role, government intervention, spending trajectory particularly built in permanent increases to this and that.
If nothing else just sit back and watch politicians play the blame game and throw the RBA under the bus.
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Firms in many industries and locations already "tightened their belts" and can't lay off more staff without stopping trade
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Politics:
Firms in many industries and locations already "tightened their belts" and can't lay off more staff without stopping trade
I don’t disagree with that and particularly in industrial sectors there has been a contraction in employment. But overall those that may have lost jobs are more than likely remained in the labour force with hours work increasing, underemployment decreasing and total number of people employed increasing. It’s a strange old economy right now and todays GDP numbers point to more pain for months ahead.
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Interesting to watch people squirming, ducking for cover and making counter-allegations when it comes to the shit-fight that is Katy Gallagher right now.
What I do find amusing and entirely unsurprising is the support offered freely to "whistle blowers" evaporates as soon as the wrong side's information is leaked.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
Interesting to watch people squirming, ducking for cover and making counter-allegations when it comes to the shit-fight that is Katy Gallagher right now.
What I do find amusing and entirely unsurprising is the support offered freely to "whistle blowers" evaporates as soon as the wrong side's information is leaked.
I'm just surprised ( I know I shouldn't) the amount of leaks in sport/politics when the media is linked and none of it ever seems to be able to be traced.
Every corner in denial mode right now though, hard to know what really happened..
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How does the performative art of politicians, CEOs and associated suckholes spending a night in new sleeping bags, with security, continue to be a thing?
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