Chiefs vs Hurricanes
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I try my best to be pragmatic about this stuff, but it's difficult as most people's view seem to perfectly align alongside the team they support. That said, I really don't get how a tackle that was around the shoulder but did result in shoulder contact with the head is the same (or worse!?) as a clothes line to the neck of a player without the ball.
Now, the Dominic Bird incident is another story. He was very lucky there.
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In all seriousness though (and for the good of the ABs) I hope TJP learned a lesson the other night.
He was a big reason the Canes lost and even though he scored a good (but possibly illegal) try to make up some of the ground, he was completely sidetracked by being too 'emotional' and getting involved with off the ball talk and actions.
I still can't see why he tried to face up with BBBR when steamrolled. You just got beat son, suck it up, don't mouth off.
A bit poor from Coles as a leader to not notice how affected TJs play was as well. He should have told him to calm down and play rugby. I suspect he was getting drawn in a bit himself. -
TJP made a lot of progress last year with controlling his emotions, but it will be an ongoing challenge for a guy like him.
Since the match I've read a few quotes indicating that the Hurricanes are a little resentful about the way the Chiefs went about the game. Chiefs have certainly dialed the niggle and abrasiveness up this year, even by their standards.
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@Milk said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
TJP made a lot of progress last year with controlling his emotions, but it will be an ongoing challenge for a guy like him.
Since the match I've read a few quotes indicating that the Hurricanes are a little resentful about the way the Chiefs went about the game. Chiefs have certainly dialed the niggle and abrasiveness up this year, even by their standards.
I didn't notice it in their other two games. That was just hard rugby.
Against the Canes though they certainly appeared to go into the game with that as a worked out tactic.
They knew the Canes were underdone and I suspect they even targeted TJP to put him off his game.
That tactic really only works though when you are also good enough to play rugby at the same time (take note Wallabies).
Maybe it's the reason Messam had a rest as well. They couldn't trust him to carry out the plan without getting carded. -
If the Chiefs are going into games with the tactic of niggly off the ball bullshit then they'll very quickly become my hatiest team.
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@No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
If the Chiefs are going into games with the tactic of niggly off the ball bullshit then they'll very quickly become my hatiest team.
It can't be helped, it's ingrained, we just have to send this man in to sort them out.
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@No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
If the Chiefs are going into games with the tactic of niggly off the ball bullshit then they'll very quickly become my hatiest team.
See this is a bit odd to me - they've always been like this under Rennie and especially so against kiwi teams and more especially against "higher-rated" teams.
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@Bones said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
@No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
If the Chiefs are going into games with the tactic of niggly off the ball bullshit then they'll very quickly become my hatiest team.
See this is a bit odd to me - they've always been like this under Rennie and especially so against kiwi teams and more especially against "higher-rated" teams.
Definitely used this tactic against the Crusaders in recent times (it's worked too, as it did against the canes)
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@Bones said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
@No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
If the Chiefs are going into games with the tactic of niggly off the ball bullshit then they'll very quickly become my hatiest team.
See this is a bit odd to me - they've always been like this under Rennie and especially so against kiwi teams and more especially against "higher-rated" teams.
So what you're saying is they should already be my most hatiest team...
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@No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
@No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
If the Chiefs are going into games with the tactic of niggly off the ball bullshit then they'll very quickly become my hatiest team.
See this is a bit odd to me - they've always been like this under Rennie and especially so against kiwi teams and more especially against "higher-rated" teams.
So what you're saying is they should already be my most hatiest team...
Yes, and when the Blues get good they'll successfully niggle them as well.
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@Bones said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
@No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
If the Chiefs are going into games with the tactic of niggly off the ball bullshit then they'll very quickly become my hatiest team.
See this is a bit odd to me - they've always been like this under Rennie and especially so against kiwi teams and more especially against "higher-rated" teams.
I only really noticed that against the Saders because it really got under their skin. Canes/Chiefs games always seemed scrappy from both sides, while Landers/Chiefs games always seemed fairly tame in comparison.
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@Unco said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
@No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
If the Chiefs are going into games with the tactic of niggly off the ball bullshit then they'll very quickly become my hatiest team.
See this is a bit odd to me - they've always been like this under Rennie and especially so against kiwi teams and more especially against "higher-rated" teams.
I only really noticed that against the Saders because it really got under their skin. Canes/Chiefs games always seemed scrappy from both sides, while Landers/Chiefs games always seemed fairly tame in comparison.
The Canes are the most niggly team IMO. Mainly based around TJP and Coles.
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@Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
But whatever punishment Bird got would be mitigated away because he was dealing with a lippy halfback.
Sometimes some things can slide for the good of the game as a whole
In fact, this should be a new award at the end of the year. Just after Super Rugby Player of the Year, is Best Dealing to a Halfback of the year.
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@Milk said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
TJP made a lot of progress last year with controlling his emotions, but it will be an ongoing challenge for a guy like him.
Since the match I've read a few quotes indicating that the Hurricanes are a little resentful about the way the Chiefs went about the game. Chiefs have certainly dialed the niggle and abrasiveness up this year, even by their standards.
waaaaah! we just want to play wugby they way we want to! waaaah.
how dare we disrespect the defending champs like that
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@mariner4life said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
@Milk said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
TJP made a lot of progress last year with controlling his emotions, but it will be an ongoing challenge for a guy like him.
Since the match I've read a few quotes indicating that the Hurricanes are a little resentful about the way the Chiefs went about the game. Chiefs have certainly dialed the niggle and abrasiveness up this year, even by their standards.
waaaaah! we just want to play wugby they way we want to! waaaah.
how dare we disrespect the defending champs like that
Yeah agree, disgusting lack of respect, a written apology via Twitter or Facebook should suffice.
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@No-Quarter suck our top of the table plums Pocock, you get nothing.
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@No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
If the Chiefs are going into games with the tactic of niggly off the ball bullshit then they'll very quickly become my hatiest team.
Get on board bro.
Last year one of my most enjoyable games was when the Lions beat them at Hamilton. Have even found myself cheering for a draw when they play against Aussie teams
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@No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:
So what you're saying is they should already be my most hatiest team...
I'm a Blues fan, so I'm meant to hate them. But by god they play some good footy at times - Rennie with a dose of Wayne-o thrown in makes for a hell of a footy side.
Niggly though.
