All Blacks v Ireland II
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@raznomore said in Ireland II:
We're stuffed. Ratfuck reckons Read is passed his useby.
Woe is us....
ABs by plenty
Just like Richie and Dan were ?
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@Unite said in Ireland II:
@kiwiinmelb said in Ireland II:
Im actually liking this , its reminding me of when we lose the first Bledisloe , and we are waiting for the second game ,
Has a similar vibe
Only issue is most of those second games were at Eden Park...or at the very least in NZ...😳
And after giving it more thought, we probably haven't had one of those crunch games without the old brigade of Richie and co yet either .
I guess we find out a lot about this group, we have seen plenty of how well they play when its all going there way ,
Im fairly confident they will be up for it .
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Been very little coming out of the camp, there is no way they are not focused, it will burn to be the first ab team to lose to the Irish, I doubt they want another minor tag attached to them either if they are the first ab team this decade to lose back to back to a team, plus then Matt Watsons wet dream will come true and this will be on the verge of being the worst season since 1998.
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Boom!
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11749668
It finally happened! We were arrogant and disrespectful and that's why we lost:
"I think they showed a little bit of arrogance there and lack of respect with some of their selections." -
Going to be interesting , I would not be overly surprised if we blew them away , and I wouldn't be surprised if it went down to the wire either .
I think we will rectify most of the things that went wrong in Chicago such as the breakdown and lineout .
i do think they will start beuadan, , love him as a player , but have concerns sooner or later , if he is the goalkicker , it's going to cost us an important test match.
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@nzzp Fuck me that NZH subbie's a piece of work. Click-bait headline or what - "I think they showed a little bit of arrogance there and lack of respect with some of their selections."
Isn't that effectively what 90% of the posts here were saying after the game?
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Think there is an argument for Sops to start and although Ardie carried well in the latter half, there is still room for a seven in the style of Todd whose support line and linking play are excellent.
I say SBarrett has earned a a start alongside BBBR and lets get the Beast mode back into Kaino and a return to an athletic and dominant Read. -
So...Kaino injured.
Moody to get redemption
Smith-BB
LOCKS back and dagg back. -
All Blacks named.
Kaino out.
Whitelock and BBBR back though.
Julian Savea needs a much better performance than the rubbish he served up in Chicago.
All Blacks: Ben Smith, Israel Dagg, Malakai Fekitoa, Anton Lienert-Brown, Julian Savea, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read (captain), Sam Cane, Liam Squire, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Owen Franks, Dane Coles, Joe Moody. Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Charlie Faumuina, Scott Barrett, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Aaron Cruden, Waisake Naholo.
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only real surprises on the bench.
I expected PT on the bench, but maybe there is doubt on the locks, so a more like-for-like replacement was the safer choice (SB has played the house down on his two chances though, good on him). And a straight winger as our back reserve.
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Shocked to see Barrett there. Scott Barrett that is. The rest as per program.
Am a bit over Fekitoa in the midfield and would prefer ALB at 13 but if we tighten in the right areas and everyone else is on their game - particularly in defence - it shouldn't be an issue.
A pissed off Kaino would have been useful in this fixture but we will survive.
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Not a good sign for PT as it seems that Scott Barrett and Squire are preferred options as cover off the bench now.
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I'm actually more worried about Squire than S Barrett - having said that 2 proper locks will help Squire do his thing I reckon. It's a real chance for him to show he's up to the 6 jersey. S Barrett has looked money in his two All Black appearances. Ireland looked ready for our big physical runners in Chicago and held up PT a number of times (he was running quite upright). Barrett provides different question marks to the defence.
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@KiwiMurph was Kaino they held up wasnt it?
We will miss Kaino...
But as above, with BBBR and SW back, hopefully Squire can get stuck into his own role.
For me the Moody over Crockett along with Julians continued selection (although he is probably lucky Naholo hasnt struck any form at this level) is probably the most disappointing.
Hopefully Moody will repay the faith with 0 penalties this week.
Hansen mentioned we had 16/21 errors that shouldnt and owuldnt normally occur, along with 12 penalties we shouldnt be conceding.
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Would be interesting to know when Kaino picked up 'slight calf strain' -- assume it was at least a week ago.
Well done, Scott Barrett! Very interesting that AB scrum and maul finished well against Ireland last time out with Barrett at TH lock and Read at LH.
Assume Moody has been warned 'if in doubt to leave it out'. My only minor gripe is that for me Cruden start/BB bench has better early game management/late impact than vice versa, but not a new or original POV. -
@taniwharugby Him also but I thought PT as well. He certainly wasn't bowling people over like he was versus Italy.
Regardless of selection a good start for the ABs will be discipline - don't give the Irish cheap field position or numbers advantage (Moody)
