MotM vs Ireland, Chicago
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the only hope for the ABs was to break through in the backs. as the forwards were playing so poorly esp in the first half. So Barret did the right thing. NZ coudl still have won but they almost started panicking with 15 minutes left. Trying to make a pass when they should have held onto it. But it was really dumb selections that lost it.
J Savea didn't have a good game but Naholo likewise. B Smith was good enough but the midfield was a big drop down compared to the last 2 tests. The only backs who came out of this was Perenara, B Smith and Barrett. Crotty went early so his reputation is intact.
Its a game that had to happen eventually. i think after the recent test series the coaches thought the team was unbeatable and paid the price
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@mariner4life
Codie Taylor did play !!!!!!!!!!! He was playing as a blindside flanker when Moala left the field. -
@cgrant said in MotM vs Ireland, Chicago:
@mariner4life
Codie Taylor did play !!!!!!!!!!! He was playing as a blindside flanker when Moala left the field.Played less than everyone else, which was why I voted for him too.
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I went for Cane, Perenara and Scott Barrett but this was a difficult selection.
Moody : cost the AB dearly (2 tries, 1 conversion, 1 PG).
Coles : had a shocker in the first half but was OK in the second.
Franks : not good, not bad.
Kaino : playing him out of position cost the AB dearly. Was twice held up in his drives which meant two automatic turnovers.
Tuipolutu : big workrate in the loose but could not disrupt the Irish LO and mauls. Is he just an impact player ?
Squire : not bad but could not break the Irish defence. Same question : is he just an impact player ?
Cane : consistantly good in the tackle, one turnover won.
Read : a very quiet game at the office by his usual (very high) standards.
Smith : he had a shocker (one stupid penalty, one stupid kick, one very bad pass, two defensive errors which cost two tries). He has to tidy things up in his head right now.
Barrett : one beautiful pass for BS try and kicking from tee OK but did not try to run with the ball when it mattered most.
Savea : clearly out of form.
Crotty : went OK till his injury.
Moala : not seen much of him.
Naholo : showed his legs when a good ball was delivered to him. Otherwise too quiet.
Smith : very quiet by his usual (very high) standards. He certainly needs to be rested.
Ofa T : scrum was OK.
Taylor : played out of position but made one good hit on Murray.
Faumuina : two knock ons which relieved the pressure on the Irish.
Scott Barrett : stole one LO and scored a great try on debut. Not bad for a first outing.
Savea : not a game for him.
Perenara : changed the pace of the game for the AB when he came in. Best player on the field for the AB.
Cruden : had a mare. He is clearly not an impact player. I think Sopoaga is now in front of him in the pecking order.
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@cgrant What Moody did was reckless and dumb with that tackle, but seriously how did he cost 2 tries?
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@ACT-Crusader said in MotM vs Ireland, Chicago:
@cgrant What Moody did was reckless and dumb with that tackle, but seriously how did he cost 2 tries?
Brian O'Driscoll - 0-13 vs New Zealand......"could have died" from a spear tackle
Robbie Henshaw - 1-0 vs New Zealand.....got up from a spear tackle, played on and scored the winning try.
I think todays Irish rugby players are a bit more appealing than those of yesteryear.
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@Bones said in MotM vs Ireland, Chicago:
Interesting take on it not being a game for A Savea. What is a game for him then? Is he just there to come on when we're leading and help it be even more of a blowout? Seems rather pointless...
I'm more shocked that Moody scored 16 points.
For Ireland
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@Bones said in MotM vs Ireland, Chicago:
Interesting take on it not being a game for A Savea. What is a game for him then? Is he just there to come on when we're leading and help it be even more of a blowout? Seems rather pointless...
Perfect game for him I reckon, got to see him in the midfield...
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@ACT-Crusader said in MotM vs Ireland, Chicago:
@cgrant What Moody did was reckless and dumb with that tackle, but seriously how did he cost 2 tries?
They scored two trys while he was in the bin. Because we were down in the forward pack they turned down a shot at goal and used the numerical advantage to drive over the line.
Put us under pressure needlessly. Third game he done something stupid trying to be a tough guy.
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Numerical advantages are overstated when it comes to maul tries from 5 out. I doubt Moody would've made much difference there.
Was the other try when Moala missed a straight up tackle?
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@ACT-Crusader said in MotM vs Ireland, Chicago:
Numerical advantages are overstated when it comes to maul tries from 5 out. I doubt Moody would've made much difference there.
Was the other try when Moala missed a straight up tackle?
Would the All Blacks have been in the same field position to concede the first try without the help of Moody?
Moala's poor tackling in no way mitigates my post-loss wrath towards Moody.
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if they didn't have the numerical advantage would they have gone for the 3 points instead of the drive and the subsequent try?
Can sit here with if's and but's all day.
Moody's discipline was a huge factor in the loss, not the only facto, but a huge one none the less.
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@Donsteppa said in MotM vs Ireland, Chicago:
@ACT-Crusader said in MotM vs Ireland, Chicago:
Numerical advantages are overstated when it comes to maul tries from 5 out. I doubt Moody would've made much difference there.
Was the other try when Moala missed a straight up tackle?
Would the All Blacks have been in the same field position to concede the first try without the help of Moody?
Moala's poor tackling in no way mitigates my post-loss wrath towards Moody.
Particularly if Moala was forced to play on injured because Crotty had gone off. What was it, a dislocated thumb and then stuff ripped off his elbow?
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Moody's binning was a big momentum shifter shortly after Naholo had sliced them open to set up Moala's try. Very frustrating.
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@taniwharugby said in MotM vs Ireland, Chicago:
if they didn't have the numerical advantage would they have gone for the 3 points instead of the drive and the subsequent try?
Can sit here with if's and but's all day.
Yes - Sexton was carrying an injury into the game with his hamstring - that's why he eventually went off. And definite decision to not try and win by threes.
