Stadium of Canterbury
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@donsteppa said in Stadium of Canterbury:
Tauranga Domain has gone from 'we need a bigger stadium' to 'just right'. Probably not worth spending well north of $100 million for a massive upgrade that might get filled with a tier two All Blacks match every second year. (Just freeload on the 'Tron ratepayers across the hill
), and maybe one Chiefs game a year.I've been wondering about lights for the Domain, but even that may be a blessing in disguise with September and October sunny afternoon rugby.
Definitely a blessing in disguise.
Rotorua gets the crappy Thursday or Friday night games for sky. Tauranga with their 'poor' stadium get only the nice sunny Saturday and Sunday afternoons.
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@rapido said in Stadium of Canterbury:
They used an athletics stadium in the RLWC? That was a bit shit, I admit.
that's Barlow Park, that will be upgraded, but these guys want rebuilt in to a modern stadium.
Barlow Park has a decent surface, but as a "stadium it's terrible. The crowd is miles from the field (i played the curtain raiser to the Reds v Crusaders in 2011 in front of about 5,000 people and you could hardly hear them on field)
The only national team we have is the Taipans. And i am not sure the recent development of the convention centre even increased capacity. A large stadium makes absolutely no sense
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@shark you're probably the best person to ask, are the surrounding regional councils chipping in now? i know a couple of years back they generally said no but maybe thats changed?
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@dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10
the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums
edit: looked it up, exactly 10
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10
the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums
edit: looked it up, exactly 10
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
Isn't at least one big stadium missing from that list?
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
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@gt12 oh yeah! didn't even check it, should you how football focused things in the UK can get
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@gt12 oh yeah! didn't even check it, should you how football focused things in the UK can get
Just here to support your argument, there is definitely more than 10.
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@gt12 just checked and the google result just said london stadiums but the actual list says "football", other than twickers i thin the rugby ones are a bit smaller...checking is a step too far
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
checking is a step too far
For god's sake don't do that, completely against the fern ethos.
Had me worried for a minute there.
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@gt12 just checked and the google result just said london stadiums but the actual list says "football", other than twickers i thin the rugby ones are a bit smaller...checking is a step too far
Lords and The Oval.
However ... Watford and Reading aren't London.
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@kiwiwomble Yeah I wasn't really trying to show the total capacity of London's stadia - after all you can only go to one at a time.
I wasn't even that interested in Wembley's the /shrug was supposed to indicate that I think the whole idea of looking at a stadiums capacity as a % of the local population is meh - so what. Sall population centres will always have a higher % and big ones lower but I don't think it signifies 5/8 Fuck All.
However as you went to all that effort. Craven Cottage is currently being redeveloped to make it even more awesome and will have a capacity of 30K when it re-opens
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@shark you're probably the best person to ask, are the surrounding regional councils chipping in now? i know a couple of years back they generally said no but maybe thats changed?
No they are not another sore point as Chch city council have not requested them too.
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10
the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums
edit: looked it up, exactly 10
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
That new Brentford one is 20k isn't it ? Nice tidy development with housing etc.
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
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@gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10
the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums
edit: looked it up, exactly 10
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
Isn't at least one big stadium missing from that list?
The information for Spurs is a touch out of date too.
@dogmeat said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble Yeah I wasn't really trying to show the total capacity of London's stadia - after all you can only go to one at a time.
I wasn't even that interested in Wembley's the /shrug was supposed to indicate that I think the whole idea of looking at a stadiums capacity as a % of the local population is meh - so what. Sall population centres will always have a higher % and big ones lower but I don't think it signifies 5/8 Fuck All.
However as you went to all that effort. Craven Cottage is currently being redeveloped to make it even more awesome and will have a capacity of 30K when it re-opens
There are extremely strict policing laws too around what stadiums can have events on the same day too. Only so many police / stewards to go around.
Reading is a bit of a stretch too as a London stadium.
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
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@kiwiwomble What has happened to The Den as I thought it had the ability to hold slightly over 20,000? Maybe the visitors end has been closed to prevent the inevitable trouble it's occupation will bring.
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@rapido said in Stadium of Canterbury:
I remember 1993 Bledisloe in Dunedin. They added extra capacity. 39,000 in a city of about 105,000 at the time.
Let alone seeing 1970s Okara Park full with 30k etc, or say 1983 Rotorua for the Lions match with 30k - each in a town of about 40k at the time.
It was very cheap to maintain a ground that is 85% grass banks. Just a bit of gas money for the tractor mower.
That was the first ever million dollar gate in NZ. The ORFU set up the tent village at Bathgate Park for pre and post match festivities for profit and also to take pressure off Dunedin's bars. Massive attendance from visiting fans domestically and internationally.
