Aussie Pro Rugby
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
Yeah it's all pretty fcked hey. Stopped reading about it frankly. What a cluster.
That applies to the entire world ATM!
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
Yeah it's all pretty fcked hey. Stopped reading about it frankly. What a cluster.
But you and @mariner4life know where it is coming from, right? Let's look at the articles:
A tumultuous 12-months has put the writing on the wall for Rugby Australia’s CEO Raelene Castle according to reports, with a former skipper set to step in.
Time looks to have run out on Raelene Castle’s tenure as Rugby Australia CEO.
Reports have indicated ...
with the final nail in the coffin for Castle being the failed bid to secure a new broadcast deal.
Reports indicate Castle may be lucky to survive the weekend.Raelene Castle’s days as Rugby Australia CEO appear numbered, a growing number of reports suggesting there is mounting pressure for a leadership change within the struggling sporting organisation.
“They must be kidding. Gave themselves a score of 20/25 for participation … For igniting passion in the game they gave a score of 21/25,” a correspondent told The Australian.
Another source told The Australian, “People are amazed (Castle) has hung on this long, everyone knows it has to come to an end soon,” and the coming few days could be pivotal for the RA CEO.The always execrable Christy (not a girl) Doran chimes in with some of his own rubbish
Exclusive: In yet another shambolic clerical error, sources say that Rugby Australia was forced to pay Wallabies hall of famer Stephen Larkham hundreds of thousands of dollars after then-coach Michael Cheika sacked him as his assistant in late 2018.
This of course is led by the following photo:
And then the fucking circle jerk from Alan Jones, Phil Kearns, and Rod Kafer - the latter 2 drawing a paycheque from Murdoch and/or sucking the broadcast establishment's dick.
Gee... the abusive lover - FoxSports - spurned, suddenly turns nasty
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
I just read Castle will be sacked this weekend and replaced by Kearns?
So long Australian rugby, at least you will always have the 90s
You could almost understand the panic in Australian Rugby right now, but given the projections of the loss they expect to incur over this year with no product, it's a bit harsh to blame the current board. This train wreck has its formulation well over a decade ago.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
You could almost understand the panic in Australian Rugby right now, but given the projections of the loss they expect to incur over this year with no product, it's a bit harsh to blame the current board. This train wreck has its formulation well over a decade ago.
And even if we employed the best possible governance and made all the right decisions in the last decade, we'd STILL be rooted to a certain extent. Not that I'm excusing past decision-makers, rather highlighting how challenging this situation is.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
You could almost understand the panic in Australian Rugby right now, but given the projections of the loss they expect to incur over this year with no product, it's a bit harsh to blame the current board. This train wreck has its formulation well over a decade ago.
And even if we employed the best possible governance and made all the right decisions in the last decade, we'd STILL be rooted to a certain extent. Not that I'm excusing past decision-makers, rather highlighting how challenging this situation is.
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@rotated said in Aussie Rugby:
Any tips for Ralene on how to handle this one Alan Joyce or have you got enough issues of your own?
World class virtue signalers, piss poor administrators.
Oh that they are.
"Earlier this week Castle indicated she will take a 50 per cent pay cut (she will now earn $400,000 a year) and stood down 100 of her fellow Rugby Australia staff members for three months."
What did $800,000 per annum produce? A hundred clerks preparing PowerPoint presentations on “brand recognition”, “employee engagement”, “fan engagement”, “towards zero emissions”, “diversity and inclusion”? They couldn't have fitted a dozen clerks in the comfortable Rugby Place in the CBD, from which modest base the Qantas Competitive Wallabies won lots of times.
You've got to wonder by what measure a nexus exists between 100 staff and $800,000 and a half dozen or so matches a year plus an end of year tour which looks after itself - booked in advance by the client's travel agent, every little detail, and managed in the field by the team manager. My son's First XV scrum half went from school to be Wallabies "bag man" for several years (foregoing his opportunity to go on to Eastwood Colts with his team-mates) including the '91 World Cup and he did most of the daily legwork on their tours.
Whole families manage to travel to Disneyland USA and back without having to take their life coach with them.
KPI driven triple bottom line fantasies with multi-million dollar negative results.
Once the dill is punted the "they can’t handle a strong woman/sacked for being a woman" meme will get a run. On the very same day that the Australian Prime Minister will be torn to shreds because his decisions don't suit this lobby or that, and on which not one person will come forward to excuse his actions on the sole basis that he is a bloke.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
In the event this does come to pass, I wonder how many clubs I can convince to cease payment of the RA "levy"?
Gee - I recall when Brett Papworth, President of Eastwood Rugby, put something like that forward and was dismissed here as an old fool who had no idea at all about the modern game. :face_savouring_delicious_food:
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@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
In the event this does come to pass, I wonder how many clubs I can convince to cease payment of the RA "levy"?
Gee - I recall when Brett Papworth, President of Eastwood Rugby, put something like that forward and was dismissed here as an old fool who had no idea at all about the modern game. :face_savouring_delicious_food:
Personally speaking, I dismiss him because he's in charge of a club that can't even balance its own books.
The problem with Pappy's circular argument on rugby in Australia is the same problem Kearns, Poidevin, etc hang their hat on: "Club Rugby gave us 2 World Cups!"
Which appeals to the dim old farts who mutter into their beer about someone not being from the right school or "a good rugby man" being needed to run things.
There is a lot of waste in rugby, but if anyone seriously believes the grift at head office stops with the appointment Kearns, they've not been paying attention.
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@Bovidae said in Aussie Rugby:
Dave Rennie might be having a closer look at his contract and if it has any release clause.
He took over the Poo when the coach just left ... the Poo! I think he likes getting shit and trying to mould it into diamonds.
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"Which appeals to the dim old farts who mutter into their beer ..."
Do you have any time for “good rugby men” who work endlessly to organise their clubs; allocate jobs to office holders and rouseabouts; collect registration fees and insurance dues from players who avoid paying because they're always broke; arrange jerseys and food and water and sideline medicos and referees; take the field unfit when the thirds are short because the tight head slept in; go to work to babysit keen youngsters and bludgers with rights; look after their young family; commence a season colliding with an extraordinary external crisis and suddenly get crook and hospitalised with a dicky heart when they really don't have time for that; who then must find their way back to health while planning a solution for long term club survival?
Or is that a phenomenon which simply did not occur before the turn of the century?
"the right school" - life at Summer Heights High at the hands of that horrid Chris Lilley must have been quite awful. I trust you lose that chip on your shoulder before the time comes when you are summarily dismissed as "dim" and "old" and irrelevant, you'll have your time cut out controlling your temper on that alone.
I do recall our lot discussing schools when we were young fathers. We must have had the time to do that last century because putting 120 or 140 young fellas on the paddock each weekend just happened without us having to make any effort at all. I read that on the Fern somewhere.
It mostly involved a well lubricated spirited argument between us Irish Catholics whether our sons were better off going to the Marist Brothers at Joeys, De La Salle Brothers at Oakhill or the Christian Brothers at Riverview. Yes, evil Christians all – the horror. The other half of the school families were long term local Lebanese and they couldn’t believe how us madmen could argue that issue year after year. They led such generous families, who were proud to lay claim to rugby in large part because of Nick Shehadie.
Always someone would try to drag John Cootes into the brawl, because he knew a bit about that sort of thing, but he’d just sit and smile and sneak another durry off me while his wife wasn’t watching. Neither Cootes nor Ballesty nor Mathers complained about the demands of the further work they had to do for the game in retirement.
Brett Papworth? A brace of knowledgeable business savvy members say you are wrong squared but this is the internet so no-one will know that.
His fellow board members include Ian Williams (a Qantas Winning Wallaby) who was next after Campese to head overseas for a handsome fee, in Japan. We were not happy. He re-emerged years later as the forward scout for the first of the big law practices entering Japan – made a fortune as senior partner. He’s an old fuddy duddy in his mid-50s now, fluent in their language, with a reputation for excellence in the serious end of the law business. His standing with Japanese fans is so good that the organisers insisted he return to feature in their World Cup promotional campaigns. He is quite lucid, doesn’t “mutter”. What would Williams and Papworth know?
The Club owns its own ground in an Eastwood-Epping back street, surrounded by houses – TG Milner Field - training grounds, a lawn bowling club and a swathe of off street parking. Milner houses a fabulous club which fed and watered us during our best years – all afternoon a la carte lunches ending at kick out o'clock. Then along came FBT, RBT and the pokies and complaints from the surrounding houses. That was followed by fundamental demographic change, sudden and rapid. The area changed from what the real estate agents used refer to as “Vatican circle” (surrounding a leading parish church and school) to a Korean enclave and then Chinese.
Eastwood’s junior clubs halved in less than 20 years. Brett’s junior club, for which he has toiled throughout his adult life, died in 2017, as did ours. Matt Burke’s St Gerard Majella has gone. There are now seven junior clubs from Ryde to Dural, 30 odd kilometres – we had a dozen all but in sight of each other! Eastwood Rugby must relocate 30 kilometres north west to the epicentre of a rugby friendly population. They will sell Milner for $30 million odd to finance that, it is taking time because they take that responsibility seriously. How would you manage all those things differently?
Your remarks about his financial mis-management are disingenuous, mere embroidery, without anything
of substanceto support them. Easy innit?Let me know of your experience in dealing with paradigm shift in a community sporting environment. What has Papworth’s Board done so badly, that you would not have done?
On Kearns – I made no comment on that.
I will note he had his Arts-Economics degree before his first Wallaby jersey. In that he is disciplined like Snaky Smith, Brendan Cannon, Farr-Jones, Brett Robinson, Doug Howlett, Ewen Mackenzie, Marty Roebuck and Jannie du Plessis. He has operated successfully in the finance industry since rugby retirement; been financially successful in his private investment activities; and a community fun run he initiated 20 years ago has raised $30 million for medical equipment in childrens hospitals. Kearns came up with that idea while he was waiting in outpatients with his son and spotted a need. He makes no comment about that in rugby media presumably because they are not a profitable target.
He plays a role in television commentary which meets broadcast objectives perfectly well, amusing himself at the vitriol from the easily fooled. Greg Martin is the same - he has been on a ratings winning breakfast radio crew in Brisbane for years and knows what works.
In what characteristic does Phil Kearns not meet your standards?
He’d be mad to take the role I say, it is a poisoned chalice. Australian rugby’s next victim will be Dave Rennie, then they will go after the new ARU CEO.
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