Waikato vs Taranaki
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@Crucial said in Waikato vs Taranaki:
I swear the draw is always done to maximise the Cantabs chances of getting the Shield. However this game had gone (and it was the most likely challenge win) Canterbury would have likely had a crack yet other teams wait years for even one go.
Not sure that's correct, but Ta$man have certainly been fucked over royally with the Shield draw in the past two or three years (some simply bad luck) (and notwithstanding an appalling call by Bryce Lawrence - sending the Mighty Kahn to the bin when we were ahead of Wellington with fuck all time to play).
If we'd had a realistic chance of a Shield challenge this year maybe we would have retained Quentin McDonald and Joe Wheeler for one more tilt - but, the prospect of getting a challenge was highly remote once the draw was done.
Just to note - the Shield has NEVER come to Nelson. Despite that we invented rugby in this fucking country. In the past two or three seasons we have repeatedly beaten pretty much every Shield holder - and yet we couldn't get a challenge. And next season, when Banks, Ainley and Fonotia are gone, we'll be back to also-rans.
I am far beyond fucked off at this.
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Saw most of the seconx gzlc and don't think Naki choked.
Re the try that wasn't: correct call. Except Seta should have been yellowed. Saved the blushes if ghat idiot Waikato hooker. Pass it man!
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@Chris-B. said in Waikato vs Taranaki:
@Crucial said in Waikato vs Taranaki:
I swear the draw is always done to maximise the Cantabs chances of getting the Shield. However this game had gone (and it was the most likely challenge win) Canterbury would have likely had a crack yet other teams wait years for even one go.
Not sure that's correct, but Ta$man have certainly been fucked over royally with the Shield draw in the past two or three years (some simply bad luck) (and notwithstanding an appalling call by Bryce Lawrence - sending the Mighty Kahn to the bin when we were ahead of Wellington with fuck all time to play).
If we'd had a realistic chance of a Shield challenge this year maybe we would have retained Quentin McDonald and Joe Wheeler for one more tilt - but, the prospect of getting a challenge was highly remote once the draw was done.
Just to note - the Shield has NEVER come to Nelson. Despite that we invented rugby in this fucking country. In the past two or three seasons we have repeatedly beaten pretty much every Shield holder - and yet we couldn't get a challenge. And next season, when Banks, Ainley and Fonotia are gone, we'll be back to also-rans.
I am far beyond fucked off at this.
I feel for you. It was only when the Shield went on walkabout among the 'lesser' unions that CM managed to break its duck. For years and years I would look at the permutations of my team having a shot at the Log and many a year there was no show of getting near it bar a couple of big upsets.
It is quite regular though that a few unions seem to get a few cracks a seasons or have draws that line them up with potential holders toward the end. My example was Canterbury and this year they were lined up as the second realistic challenger with a backup game if Naki managed to beat them to it (and held out against the mighty 'Poo)
Perhaps when they get hold of it again they could take it to show off to their little brother? -
@Crucial said in Waikato vs Taranaki:
Perhaps when they get hold of it again they could take it to show off to their little brother?
Frankly, we won't even get a game in Christchurch next year unless perhaps if we get relegated. We won't have a team to beat Canterbury next year, anyway. Our "Golden Generation" are departing.
We already don't have the same forward firepower as last year due to defections and injuries and next year the backs will be weaker.
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@Chris-B Marlborough have won it before and Ta$man is Maelborough so same thing mate
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@Hooroo said in Waikato vs Taranaki:
@Chris-B Marlborough have won it before and Ta$man is Maelborough so same thing mate
Not to us poor fluffybunnies who live in Nelson!
Luckily, I was a Cantab in the early 1980s and specifically a Shield holder - a funny story for you.
I was working for the National Bank in Hereford Street (main Christchurch branch) and someone arranged for the Shield to be on display with us for a week. And, since I was working closest to the main door, I (at 19) was put in charge of not letting it get stolen.
During the week the Janitor came up to me and said, "Do you think I should drill a hole through it and bolt it to the desk to stop it getting stolen?"
I said, "Christ you can't do that - it's the Ranfurly Shield!"
I told my friends, "That fuckwit thought he should drill a hole through the Shield".
He doubtless told his friends, "That fuckwit thought I was going to drill a hole through the Shield".
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@Crucial said in Waikato vs Taranaki:
@Stargazer said in Waikato vs Taranaki:
What a nail biter.
Next Shield challenge will be v Canterbury on 28 September. Really hope Waikato win that game too, so they can hand the Shield back to the Bay on 8 October. #dreamsarefreeI swear the draw is always done to maximise the Cantabs chances of getting the Shield. However this game had gone (and it was the most likely challenge win) Canterbury would have likely had a crack yet other teams wait years for even one go.
Rubbish. The last time Canterbury won the Shield was when they took it off Southland on 9 October 2010. They also lost it to Southland after 2 successful defences on 23 July 2011. After that, Canterbury had one (unsuccessful) challenge, when Taranaki held the Shield, on 18 September 2012.
FYI @Chris-B, Ta$man had its last (unsuccessful) Shield challenge, also when Taranaki held it, on 1 September 2012.
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@Stargazer I know - well, not exactly - but, the first time in a hundred years we've had a "Nelson based" team capable of taking the Shield and we haven't been able to get a fucking challenge in four years!
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@Stargazer Fair call however my point was regarding the draw. The fact that the Shield has successfully avoided Canterbury in the last few seasons has ben fortune rather than design.
When I get a chance I will try and go back through the published draws to try and back this up.
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@Chris-B. said in Waikato vs Taranaki:
@Stargazer I know - well, not exactly - but, the first time in a hundred years we've had a "Nelson based" team capable of taking the Shield and we haven't been able to get a fucking challenge in four years!
Small price you had to pay for beating the Magpies in the 2013 Championship final.
If you hadn't, you would have had your challenge against Counties on 30 August 2014 (the one the Bay won and was followed by several succesfull challenges until Waikato took it of us on 9 October 2015). -
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@booboo said in Waikato vs Taranaki:
Saw most of the seconx gzlc and don't think Naki choked.
Re the try that wasn't: correct call. Except Seta should have been yellowed. Saved the blushes if ghat idiot Waikato hooker. Pass it man!
tough to say that against Hame - that guy is a farking animal and waikatos best player at the mo.
watch the work he did leading up to the try just after half time...
didn't think we'd win that one with the injuries we had.. but sheesh keeping the shield means so much to these guys, from about weds last week they wouldn't let it go out for any more 'public relations' work and they all had turns taking it home and spending time with it to make sure they really wanted to keep it.
basically the injuries and naki's third game in a week cancelled each other out. They looked pretty rooted at half time. A lucky win, but we'll take it! Good atmos with the limited people there, think it's great how the shield really motivates the challengers supporters to jump on a bus or something to make a journey to the game. Some of them were going to be in for a long night last night getting home!
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Yeah harsh (gee typing on the phone after a couple of beers leaves a lot to be desired). He did bomb a try there though i reckon.
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@ploughboy Yep, Koloamatangi's decision not to pass was a shocker. Waikato had a huge overlap to the right.
This was a strange game. We went along quite relaxed and were not too worried if Waikato lost, given the next challenger. But as the game went on we were all hoping Waikato would sneak a win. That's the second 20-20 Ranfurly Shield draw I've seen for Waikato - the other being with Counties in 1981.
I haven't watched a replay but based on my view at the ground I wasn't impressed with O'Keefe's performance. It appears scrums aren't reset anymore when the front rows stand up.
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Ok sorry hooker dude. Meant the prop dude what didn't pass
