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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Canes4life" data-cid="611634" data-time="1472862983"><p>That backline above cant be much better. No more Nadalo to save your blushes next year. It could be a long one for Crusaders fans if you dont sign firepower between now and Super Rugby kickoff.<br><br>
Have a chat with the Blues theyve probably got too much firepower and not many tactically strong players, where the Crusaders are polar opposites.</p></blockquote>
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Crusaders fans, still riding on the legacy of those that went before. Keep riding it mate you wont be winning anymore titles with a backline like that, not in this era of Super Rugby. Variety is the key to keep the opposition guessing. You cant just go side to side like the Crusaders used to. Teams are bigger, fitter, faster, stronger and have the technology to nullify that. <br><br>
As a Canes fan I want all Kiwi sides to be strong. I am only stating where the Crusaders need to strengthen the side to challenge for the title again, if you cant agree with me that the backline mentioned is below par then I guess there is no point continuing this discussion. -
<p>1) Nadolo had his worst season of his three at the Crusaders in 2016</p>
<p>2) If you want to poke fun at the Crusaders backline you're a couple of seasons too late</p>
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<p>They've been performing poorly for a few years now and the absence of Nadolo isn't going to be the big factor between next season's fortunes and last's</p> -
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<p>I am only stating where the Crusaders need to strengthen the side to challenge for the title again, if you cant agree with me that the backline mentioned is below par then I guess there is no point continuing this discussion.</p>
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<p>Your statement was that the Crusaders backline next year will be worse than this year.</p>
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<p>If you wanted to discuss the Crusaders' title ambitions for 2017 you'd get no shortage of open discussion from frustrated Crusaders fans.</p>
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<p>If it makes you feel any better then yes, the Hurricanes backline is awesome. I'd love to have TJP, BB and NMS. I could give or take another out-of-shape, one-trick-pony winger, though. We've only just farewelled our current one.</p> -
Where would you strengthen the side? Im purely interested as a kiwi rugby fan. Im not trying to rub you guys up the wrong way im just keen to know??<br><br>
You obviously have a forward pack that can do-in any other side when they are hot but it seems like you have lacked punch the last few years and it doesnt look like improving anytume soon. Its strange as I remember Blackadder acknowledged it two seasons ago but didnt really do anything about it. I guess it didnt help when Fruean was ruled out for the whole season. <br><br>
As a Crusaders fan where would you go if you were Scott Robertson. After watching Richies movie he made a good point - You have to do things differently so bringing in a few big boppers may be the right move. -
I wonder if this will turn into a Man U vs Liverpool type thing, I.e. we'll be celebrating a threepeat or something and Saders fans will scoff that they won 8 (even if the last one was 20 years ago). <br><br>
Actually I don't think the Saders backline is too bad. They have Hall now right? So the halves pairing is solid and a midfield of Barrett and Crotty has massive potential. Dagg at fb and McNichol and Ioane on the wings. I've seen worse.<br><br>
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<p>Jack Goodhue?</p>
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<p>The Canes set up is the best at the moment of all the NZ franchises at turning talented young backs into world-class players (Julian Savea, Milner-Skudder, Beauden Barrett), Jordan Barrett will develop faster with Hurricanes.</p>
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<p>What happened to Aaron Smith, Cruden and Dagg then? All from the 'canes catchment but became world class backs playing for someone else.</p>
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<p>Maybe talent is talent?</p>
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<p>I know you tongue is firmly in cheek but lets wait for the next few Super victories (which are inevitable of course) and crow about the dynasty then. We don't kick people when they are down. We leave that to certain crusaders fans. We learnt humility through 20 years of failure.</p> -
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<p>I'd like to see Rieko Ioane playing a couple of super seasons at center with Crotty at 12. Please poach him. I reckon he would be an awesome center when he gets a bit of experience and game sense.</p>
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<p>They already poached Goodhue, who was pretty good when i was watching him in the Auckland 1A comp. Definitely one to watch out for.</p>
<p>Hopefully the Blues make a play for Jordie.. Desperate need of a first five.. Would be good to see him playing inside SBW, Moala, Rieko, Nanai..</p> -
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They already poached Goodhue, who was pretty good when i was watching him in the Auckland 1A comp. Definitely one to watch out for.<br>
Hopefully the Blues make a play for Jordie.. Desperate need of a first five.. Would be good to see him playing inside SBW, Moala, Rieko, Nanai..</p></blockquote>
Why Jordie? Who is being talked up ad the second coming poor bastard.<br><br>
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<p>Why not Jordie?</p>
<p>We've already chased the big time players, but I think with Jordie, we might have a chance as he hasn't yet established himself.</p>
<p>I do agree that West is better than Mounga and Hickey, but I don't see him as pushing for higher honors. </p> -
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Why not Jordie?<br>
We've already chased the big time players, but I think with Jordie, we might have a chance as he hasn't yet established himself.<br>
I do agree that West is better than Mounga and Hickey, but I don't see him as pushing for higher honors.</p></blockquote>
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<p>It was gospel 6 months ago that BB couldn't control a game as starting AB first five.</p>
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<p>Even if he couldn't control a game.. He was still good enough to be an AB..</p> -
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Even if he couldn't control a game.. He was still good enough to be an AB..</p></blockquote>Worse players than West have worn Black when NZ had a first five problem. I remember Simon Mannix.<br><br>
TBF to Mannix, he became a much better player overseas later and Mains was casting a wide net so the AB contuity and combination we know now didn't exist, but even so, you don't knock on like he did. And he was from St Pats stream so fuck him. -
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Jack Goodhue?</p></blockquote>
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<p>Worse players than West have worn Black when NZ had a first five problem. I remember Simon Mannix.<br><br><strong>TBF to Mannix, he became a much better player overseas later and Mains was casting a wide net so the AB contuity and combination we know now didn't exist,</strong> but even so, you don't knock on like he did. And he was from St Pats stream so fuck him.</p>
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<p>Mannix had actually been an AB for a few years before Mains took over - just not as a test player (different times back then). Crazy to think he played his first match for the ABs at 19 and was done at 22.</p>
