It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.
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@Bones said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.
You think the Crusaders haven't had injuries in the past five years?
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@Chris-B said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Steven-Harris I don't have any concerns about our selections for AB coaches and assistant coaches.
They may end up not winning as much (and what) we want, but they're all good choices.
Unfortunately circumstances and availability mean you'll never get the best outcome.
Schmidt didn't want to continue in the role beyond 2023, while Andrew Goodman was never going to be brought out of his Leinster contract after that $450,000 Mooar farce. The only change I wanted to the current group is Goodman as defense coach (he filled that role 2017-2019) with Hansen running the attack strategy & overall gameplan as he's doing this currently for Crusaders, with McDonald working specifically with the outside backs.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
There's always snipers waiting.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years
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Get behind Fozzie now, guys! He is locked in.
"I told you so", will bring you little joy on the night we get knocked out.
From experience - the only thing that will bring you much joy that day (rugby-wise) is if the Mako win the NPC earlier in the evening!
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@Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years
That's my point - people compare him to Foster. If he doesn't bring back fairly quickly the 30-40 point shellackings we regularly gave the Bokke pre-Foster, the ill-informed stone-throwing will start in earnest
The reality is the Rugby world has changed and power has shifted. Not every AB loss is down to who's the Head Coach and his assistants. Needs time.
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@Machpants some of your best work right there talking of coach that gets a whole suitcase of free passes
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@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years
That's my point - people compare him to Foster. If he doesn't bring back fairly quickly the 30-40 point shellackings we regularly gave the Bokke pre-Foster, the ill-informed stone-throwing will start in earnest
The reality is the Rugby world has changed and power has shifted. Not every AB loss is down to who's the Head Coach and his assistants. Needs time.
I disagree, he will be given time, as whatever the 24+ ABs serve up will be better than Foster. No one expects the dominance of the up to '15 ABs, just an improvement on the 17-23. Admittedly if we get worse performances then yes, but I really can't see that. He will be given time by the majority, as everyone knows it takes time to build back from a disaster. I expect that 24 will not be a great year. I just hope to see different tactics than 2015
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@Chris-B said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Bones said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.
You think the Crusaders haven't had injuries in the past five years?
Quite the opposite, that's my point. Super coach has only underperformed this year due to injury. Would've taken out every team otherwise.
Poor guy.
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Razor should not be immune to criticism, his assistant choices could've been better, well hey at least Smith's returning (in a significantly reduced capacity) even if it's a nominal role more than anything, I suspect he won't even be present in All Blacks camp, sounds as if he's just continuing his retirement as usual & is going to answer Razor's phone calls on the odd occasion, lol, such a pointless nothing role, Scott Johnson's previous position at Rugby Australia comes to mind..
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@Victor-Meldrew
Disagree, majority on here are realists. Not going to be easy to replace Whitelock, Retallick, Smith, Mounga.
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@BerniesCorner said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Disagree, majority on here are realists. Not going to be easy to replace Whitelock, Retallick, Smith, Mounga.
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Where is the Razor criticism?
There’s some concern around the performance of his assistants but I haven’t seen anyone dissing him.
I have always said he is extremely good at navigating a campaign.
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@Crucial that's fair, I do have reservations about his assistants, Ryan & Hansen are talented coaches & very highly regarded, the other two I remain uneasy about. The other issue I have is Hansen should be leading the attack strategy/GP as he's doing currently for Crusaders, int. level defense coach ought to be specialist in the area.
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@Crucial said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
I have to wonder about Razors assistant selections with some of the evidence we are seeing in Super
Holland and his terrible sub calls and Rangi with his kicking tactics
Early touch from Perofeta in his own half and he puts the same short cross field bomb low percentage kick that we have seen BB doing. Obviously a coached thing and if it’s not directly coming from Rangi then he should be stopping it.
The subbing of Roigard at 60 for Booth continues. Roigards importance to the Canes at the moment is equal to Ardie. He’s not flagging fitness wise so keep him on.When Henry was appointed in 2004 he brought Smith and Hansen - two of his equals as head coaches with him, in addition to Byrne and Cron.
Would anyone consider MacDonald and Holland anywhere as respected & successful as Smith and Hansen?
No, they have not won anything of note, Ta$man were patchy & inconsistent during his tenure and significantly improved after he left, they were better under Kieran Keane IMO and clearly under Goodman/Dermody.
